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Re: Cheating and Smurfing Getting Out of Control

@el7uarvszheo 

Typically when making sure that players aren't using alt accounts, methods like comparing IP addresses and HWID's are used.

Though such methods aren't really that precise for knowing if a computer is being shared.

Meaning that if you were to allow one account per IP or HWID, people cannot have multiple accounts on a single device, even if these accounts belong to seperate players.

So I personally think it wouldn't really be possible to restrict the amount of accounts per device.

Users that have gotten banned for cheating in the past usually have methods used against them so that are used to detect them again.

Meaning that if someone cheats once, their device will be logged, usually banning any new accounts instantly or soon after.

Though sadly enough these methods are usually easily bypassed, meaning that these types of protection systems wouldn't really help a lot.


Now, I think it's still entirely possible to battle cheaters with new algorithms and all kinds of crazy tech, though this takes time, a lot of it.

Though whilst the anticheat is updated, cheat developers will also start to update their stuff, meaning it's just a crazy war that'll probably last for a long long time.

Smurfing however, is a bit harder to tackle. (I believe smurfing is throwing to stay in lower ranked matches so you can stomp them)

Alt accounts are typically made to grind to their current rank, which can be considered pretty normal.

If players do not play for a while they're going to get put into a lower rank, which technically could be considered a flaw with this system.

I barely see players throw matches on purpose to stay in a lower rank, so by definition, there probably aren't a lot of smurfs.

Next to that, it's nearly impossible to know if someone is smurfing as they could just be a good new player, or an alt account.

If they were to show behaviour of being really good and sometimes throwing, well, it would be possible to detect that if blatant, though if it weren't, it could be considered having good and bad days.

Overall, these issues suck a lot, and they're just hard to tackle I guess.

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  • @XHelperZ Smurfing in ranked we all know has been cleared and "ok'd" by the Respawn team for the grind. However any smurf account in pubs is there strictly to pound the competition and should never be allowed....period.

    I also have to respectfully disagree with your comment above "Next to that, it's nearly impossible to know if someone is smurfing as they could just be a good new player, or an alt account."

    It is very very easy to spot a smurf account in pubs. Yes I will agree with you that some ppl out there are so good at aiming and firing from many previous shooter and can apply that talent over to any FPS game....however, watch the player for less than one minute and its extremely easy to spot a smurf. You will see they have the map memorized to a science, they know where every short cut is, where every lil hidden gem is and loot bins, their movement is all ready god like. They can shield up slide, ping and jump and do 180's all at the same time. Their ping system is perfect, they rotate perfectly and know where all the funnel spots are and where everyone is going. They have looting death boxes and swapping inventory etc down with lightening speed, and I know I'm leaving out many other easy indicators to know without a doubt or hesitation that you are looking at a smurf account - doing all that while at level 4.

    Really??
  • Yeah of course it is not possible to prevent it completely but even it is possible to bypass them people will less likely to risk their main account. It is pretty efective on the Faceit, hundreds of people getting banned for ban evasion per month.

    Right now there are no measures and I just killed a cheater 5 minutes ago. What prevents me from playing with cheats on my second account? Nothing.