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Re: Hot drop garbage

@c0ld1

Wanting a smaller map for the short attention span players seems like a nice idea on the surface, but:

a) I don't want to be forced onto a team deathmatch map because a bunch of kids have adhd. That's why I left 20 years of Halo to come to Apex.

b) This game doesn't need to bend to hot droppers' compromised mental condition. Those players need to go find a non-battle royale game that's better suited to them.

c) Stop encouraging their behavior by being willing to drop with them. If you don't get jumpmaster then you have five seconds in the drop ship to select "drop solo." Selecting it doesn't mean you can't drop with your squad. It means your sending a message to the jm that your options are open and they shouldn't do anything stupid. If you're on mic then you can actually say that, although it won't make you any friends. But sometimes the right thing to do is the unpopular thing to do. Every single match I play I drop solo and I stay alive until my squadmates get themselves killed or survive to third place where we meet back up and then take it from there. I know it sounds anti-meta, but it actually works. Unless you have some fantasy of making it to Diamond.

12 Replies

  • AcidicSoda44031's avatar
    AcidicSoda44031
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @reconzero yeah this. I have said it once and I will say it again: The game shouldn't change just to get around dumb people. To me it's insane.
    Frankly, I think these people shouldn't be allowed to enter ranked matches in the first place.

    I have squadded up with some buddies for ranked arenas, the experience is much better. I was tired of teammates that go solo, go opposite of the ring, or people ratting the whole game.

    If I can be completely honest, one of my buddies was bad at the game. And yet, he used his common sense, he stuck with us, he tried to help in whatever way he could, and thanks to him, I broke the RP ceiling I was stuck under for the past 90 hours.

    See guys? It isn't hard. You don't have to be a god, just use some common sense!

  • c0ld1's avatar
    c0ld1
    New Scout
    3 years ago
    @reconzero

    Don't play the smaller map. Giving people what they want may help divide people up with how they want to play.

    I've been playing since season 7 and it seems like there are more of them now than ever.

    I do play solo a lot and don't drop with the hot death squad.
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @c0ld1

    As I read "smaller map" I'm reminded of the fact that this game already has arenas, and if that doesn't provide the adrenaline junkies with whatever it is they're looking for then why necessarily would a smaller battle royale map scratch the itch?
  • c0ld1's avatar
    c0ld1
    New Scout
    3 years ago

    Kind of seems like Broken Moon was a way to combat hot drops. More loot distributed around the map, combat terrain areas seem to be more equal, zip rails to move quickly between areas, etc. IDK it seems like they're aware of the problem. 

    Regarding arenas, do people really even play it? I've played it a bunch but it's not that fun. 

  • c0ld1's avatar
    c0ld1
    New Scout
    3 years ago
    @Disembow3lment naw, I got thousands of kills on several legends. It's just frustrating that people are so dumb. They think they're going to get better or maybe they don't like winning. I'd rather win than get a few kills.
  • CCbathwater's avatar
    CCbathwater
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @c0ld1 Not only that! It's way easier to get kills and dmg landing anywhere but hot. I can literally land on the other side of the map and get 6-15 kills and +2000 dmg, despite half the lobby lands Fragment. Posted enough match reports of that here, to make that point.
    Land Fragment... if I survive I get maybe a few kills, and then have to spend all game looking for ammo and heals, usually alone because teammates, they be dead.
    I don't know about everybody else, but if I have to 1v3 a team and I don't have ammo and heals, I usually don't win that fight... probably a skill issue though. I need to practice my melee vs. shotgun gameplay.
    But yeah, hot drop games are so boring as it's the same every time. Dead teammates, no kills, and having to loot scraps all game instead of fighting.
    I guess I'm just odd that way, preferring to win and get kills, dmg, fights all game long. 🤡
  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    3 years ago
    @CCbathwater It really is just about peoples play styles. While some may not think it can make you a better player I can say for myself it most certainly does.

    1: It teaches me how to react and make smarter plays when being in a stressful environment.

    2: it teaches me to use guns I normally would not use to get better with them.

    3: it teaches me how to handle third party situation up to even more teams.

    There are a few reasons some can name why and how it can make someone a better player. There are those times you drop in a safe location but still a team comes in or two. So without mixing a chill play style with a sweat play style you will only be adapted to your 1 true preferred play style. Then when it does get heated some may choke or not know what to do or look for without that hot drop experience forcing someone to learn those situations.
  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    @E9ine_AC

    These thoughts go a long way to justifying why one might want to hot drop, but to force randoms into this situation in order to suit one's practice efforts is of a product of questionable ethic. No-fill and pre-made are good ways to achieve this without griefing team mates who do not choose to play this way. Just a thought, not particularly arguing with you.  I like some hot drops as part of a balanced play-style diet, as I said earlier in the thread.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @E9ine_ACLanding semi hot or contested is the best way to learn to fight. This I agree with. Landing on top of 6 other people where one gets a gun and the other gets ammo does not give you any real practice tho. It's just rng looking for high kill games.

  • AcidicSoda44031's avatar
    AcidicSoda44031
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @E9ine_AC normally I would agree with you. The thing is... I hate when the JM jumps late and is hellbent to go in the same building where 4 other squads already landed.

    They die instantly, then get mad at me for breaking off and going to a safer building next door.

    Honestly I don't know what goes through their heads. Any normal person would have seen that landing there was suicide, long before touching the ground.

    Why people don't get it is beyond me. I realized this was a bad idea when I was level 3, come on...
  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    3 years ago
    @pandareno1999 You and the two below are correct. It is not fair for others to deal with that. I will not disagree to those statements as I believe that also. I am mostly a solo queue player if my one specific friend is not online. Which I tend to no fill for the reasons of my play style.

    But, to say it does not teach anyone to be a better player is where we will agree to disagree. Some people learn differently. For me I had to learn how to deal with these situations my way. The way my brain could easily process it and how to handle it. Some like to learn at a slower rate to where I just jump into the heat and learn as I go.

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