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BigBlackCaustic
6 years ago

Re: How many games should the average player be winning?

@Axs5626Sxa5001 In an ideal situation around 5% but thats obviously not the case. SBMM is NOT intended to enforce that win rate. Its closer to weight classes in boxing. No one cares nor wants to see Mike Tyson in his prime beating the * out of scrawny teens who picked the sport up a week ago as a hobby. The leaderboard structure of Predator ranks reinforce the idea that skilled players obviously should have a higher winrate.

Its to put place people in classes among each other and work from there.

If you think that just because you cant beat newcomers that installed the game an hour ago anymore that the game is unwinnable then your problem is between your chair and monitor.



TL;DR a good win rate is possible, you gotta work for it.

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    Axs5626Sxa5001
    6 years ago
    @BigBlackCaustic

    I appreciate your feedback. I try to put myself in the mind of a dev. Obviously I do NOT want new players in lobbies with well-versed, high accuracy players. But a SBMM Algorithm which seeks to place similar skilled players in the same lobby will ultimately have said effect.

    There are pros and * to SBMM. I’m a pretty skilled player (Diamond with 24k kills). I have NO business in lobbies comprised entirely of newer players. But I also wonder if what I’m experiencing in my public lobbies is fair (for players in my skill range).

    Since the SBMM algorithm ramped up (the consensus is it went into high gear around November) I DEFINITELY don’t win 5% of my games. Based on what’s observable on my drops, about 80-90% of my lobbies have Predator/Diamond contrails.

    The resulting experience? The games are unforgiving. One mistake and I’m back at the menu screen. Perhaps this means that I have no business in these lobbies but the SBMM algorithm has yet to place me in a lobby with lesser skilled opponents. The games in which I do manage to ekk out a win require a tournament level degree of focus. It sucks because this is literally the ONLY experience that Apex offers me. It’s almost like I’m being punished for being above average.

    Again— I do NOT want to consistently play lesser skilled players— that would be boring. But I also think that players who are above average (outside of the top 500 predator player leaderboards) should have, on average, more wins per games played. But my lobbies are making it so that I probably legitimately have a lower win rate than someone with half the skill/experience than I do. That’s kind of troublesome.
  • BigBlackCaustic's avatar
    BigBlackCaustic
    6 years ago

    @Axs5626Sxa5001First of, i must admit i had a wrong impression, most users here talking about SBMM want and demand to be put with low level players and whine non stop, usually followed with a truckload of hypocrisy.

    And back to topic, i gotta say SBMM does clearly not work as intended, as a fellow diamond, i often have 2 level 20 teammates in a game full of diamonds and predator trails and many other squads i face are just as mixed, to the point that it all seems just random and SBMM does not exist. It clearly needs to be fixed.

    Not to say a bad thing about having new players as teammates, i'd rather have them then those rabid monkeys on doped energy drinks grabbing a gun and armor only to run halfway across the map, ping a squad and gangbanged immediatly before i could even deal with the enemies that did land next house.

  • Gtaking1956's avatar
    Gtaking1956
    5 years ago

    I agree with you if you think you are above average move to ranked and play with the pros of apex the farthest I made was gold level 2 in season 8 im going for plat or Dimond 

  • Jem450R's avatar
    Jem450R
    5 years ago

    I was 100% wins in season 5...

    I only played one game :P 

  • dougieee's avatar
    dougieee
    5 years ago

    Its BR, its designed to be random, its not like CSGO, you cant "learn" the tricks, all you can do is try and control some of the variables and make sure your gunplay is as good as it can be.

    Slightly off topic but i watched the PUBG globals in 2019 and the Asians dominated and to be fair it didnt take like to work out why, the EU teams try and make tactical rotates and think too much, the asian teams just embrace the chaos, take on every fight and dont over analyse, i think that holds true to all BRs if im honest.

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