@CCbathwater The feeling is mutual bud. I have quit playing due to being in console lobbies constantly. Not that the competition is too hard, it is just frustrating to watch roller players look at the ceiling and their feet and still be able to 1 clip with a 99 or car. This is like playing basketball against someone who cannot stand more than 15 seconds but still drains shots like Larry Bird.
PC does not have more cheats than console. It is just that the console cheats are much more subtle than dumb rage hacking PC kiddos. But I assume more console kids will now go out and buy that Cronus or other similar cheap hardware to get that competitive edge over the obviously cheating PC kids and further down we go. Lance Armstrong disorder race to the bottom.
This is just the way it works going forward. Competitive integrity is long gone.
I don't feel that Respawn's assumption that MnK is superior just is accurate enough to justify their current approach, IMO. Making crossplay mandatory for PC players but options for console players is just garbage and this idea of putting next gen console players in PC lobbies by default is just as bad.
I'm sorry to the AA apologists but I've been one clipped in close quarters by roller players way too many times to say it is pure skill or luck. Input based lobbies with crossplay optional is the only way I can think of making this closer to 'fair' but with emulators, Strike Packs, cheats, & scripts being so prevelant I don't know how they'd be able to tell.
@matzesingt Nailed the head my man! Unfortunately there are other cheating methods for them than just Cronus. That just happens to be the most commonly used and easily available. The price of some of them is the same or lower than a month or 2 of paid PC cheats. These are not detected or banned for in Apex AFAIK.
It is hilarious to me that some people still think consoles can't cheat. This is like saying something is not hackable nowadays.
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It's likely they won't be able to
At least not in the forums. I've been told ea doesn't take kindly to people talking about and describing the kinds of cheats in the game.
They end up removing the post and even banning those that post them for a time.
Absolutely lame if you ask me, there's no harm in educating the community about what these cheats are doing and how to spot them.
They'll just look them up anyway.
@M4ssacres Not vids I uploaded (I did not say I uploaded vids, links to cheat devices/software/walkthroughs, which are forbidden on the forums). Just use google and be amazed at the plethora of active working cheats for every platform. Cronus, Strikepack, config files, ddos lobbies into oblivion (looking at you Xbox) etc etc etc. Some of these methods either cheaper than PC cheats, or even free.
I never said more powerful than Cronus. It just is not the only way for console players to cheat. Yes, the come pay $$/month for cheats is almost always a PC thing. But the buy the thing and tweak it to cheat status is definitely a thing for console users.
You are delusional if you think console cheats don't exist, or they only exist in small pockets. This was the thought with PC cheats a decade ago and man was everyone wrong.
@matzesingt I have definitely seen the rage settings in Apex. They were s0-s1 era. Agreed the closest you get nowadays is sus PC players. I have been playing this game since s0 and have over 3k hours on PC.
Also remember that those software cheats available to PC are much easier to detect and circumvent. I know COD tried once, but has Respawn ever detected and removed a player due to a controller mod (cronus or otherwise)? So far, there are no negative consequences to using the hardware cheat. This just means these options grow over time, and so does the population using them.
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