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Re: P2020 & Mozambique Dual Wield

@Breaker771 I don't know that it's a good pairing, they both shred body damage. I think it dual wield would be better if they had an energy pistol that shreds armor or reworked the moz to shred armor.

Shred armor with moz, drop health with the P2020.. Talk about a fun set up..

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  • MassiveVernon's avatar
    MassiveVernon
    5 years ago
    @DarthValtrex So like disruptor on bique, hammer on p20? I could dig that cause it’d still be tough to pull off but be fun and work well , but akimbo weapons of any kind would be mad op lol.
  • MandatoryIDtag's avatar
    MandatoryIDtag
    5 years ago

    @MassiveVernon  I responded to a topic regarding a disruptor bique the other day, after doing the math I can tell you it would honestly be pointless lol.

     Only benefit you would receive is a slight damage increase over range on a shielded target...and not enough to make it worthwhile.

    Disruptor p2020 would be much more viable. 😛

  • MassiveVernon's avatar
    MassiveVernon
    5 years ago
    @MandatoryIDtag Yeah I guess so tbh . But Imagine having one with disruptor and one with hammer for your loadout , would tear through people so fast haha. Can already imagine the wall of nerf posts on the forum lol
  • MandatoryIDtag's avatar
    MandatoryIDtag
    5 years ago

    Yeah man, problem is it only saves you shot per shield break. If they rigged it to behave like the sentinels disruptor variant shot it would be brutal.

    1 shield cell per clip  with a guaranteed shield break.

    The p20 bique would be CQC meta. 😛

  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago
    @MassiveVernon I would not want to see it be OP, but competitive yeah it could be fun. The big question I have is what would the control set up look like on console? I would want to be able to control the guns independently of each other.

    Break shields with one, shred health with the other. The combos would have to be refined so they are not too OP.

    The other question I have, how would dual wield impact inventory? Would you carry 3 guns? or be stuck with 2? 3 guns with the current inventory system would be tricky.
  • Imagine duel-wielding spitfires. 😃

    The kickback will send you to the lobby xD

  • @DarthValtrex  Would be pretty straight forward.

    ADS replaced by second weapon.

    Akimbo specific weapon slot.

    I would say if this was every implemented they would have to give an akimbo weapon set the slowest switch speed simply because the power of it as a switch out would be pretty nasty.

  • MassiveVernon's avatar
    MassiveVernon
    5 years ago

    Yeah it would definitely need a lot of thought into the balancing really to make it viable to use and not too op. I can’t imagine three guns working really, too much messing around when changing weapons and such . Maybe just a new type of gold weapon , like a pick up that drops when you switch weapon/ run out of ammo? Or maybe a hop up that combines them both if you have two equipped , then leaves you a free space for a new weapon ? Not sure tbh

    Edit: or just what mandatory said haha 

  • MandatoryIDtag's avatar
    MandatoryIDtag
    5 years ago

    @MassiveVernon  A hop up would definitely be more streamlined, I just thought it'd be easier to find a second mozambique than it would to find a gold hop up. 😛

    Purely lazy logic on my part. XD

  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago
    @MandatoryIDtag I don't know if doing this with hop up guns is a good idea. Especially if the combo is really reliant on the other to be effective. P2020 is not bad if you have something to break shields. But it's not good on its own. If it was to complex to put together (to many hop ups and attachments) then people won't bother trying. It will be too much risk wondering around looking for pieces to make the puzzle work.
  • @DarthValtrex  I'd remove hop ups from these weapons completely if akimbo was added if it was up to me.

    An akimbo mozambique could literally be utilized to perform like the april fools bique if you alternated your triggers quickly...hammerpoints would overwhelm its damage output.

    Same could he said for the p2020 with its hipfire accuracy and a quick trigger finger.

    Like you said earlier, the balancing would he difficult.

  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago
    @MandatoryIDtag Depends how they set it up, if they went for a 1 gun to break shields and 1 to take out health then yeah balancing would be tricky.

    But if the overall max DPS rate was between 190-210 it would be a top load out option. So have the fire rates set up so you can break shields in about 30-40 seconds with one gun and take out health in 30-40 seconds with the other. The specifics of the damage would have to be toyed with, but get it into an area where it's competitive with a Wingman, 99 or Prowler.. But not quite a Devotion. I love the Devo being the top gun in the game.
  • 30-40 seconds? I think it would probably be less than that. You can stock p2020 a purple bodyshield  in less time.

    Gotta remember these are CQC weapons.

    Reductions to the accuracy would probably be a more efficient path. Even that would be trickier with a mozambique though due to the utter lack of recoil and perfect hip accuracy. x.x

  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago

    @MandatoryIDtagBrain is not working, 1/2 seconds or so. I'm tired haha, I need to go to bed. R-99 empties a clip in what about 1 second? Slightly more? ideally you would want the dual wield to compete with that, so you'd you want the damage to be able to take out shields and health in similar time. 

  • Breaker771's avatar
    Breaker771
    5 years ago

    I like that idea, originally when I thought of this I wanted just a gold hop up to combine them and this would take the entire slot, so you wouldn’t need a third gun. This akimbo would beat out weapons like an re-45 and probably an R-99. This would make it fair for people and make P2020 and Mozambique a viable option late game. However, if they made it so akimbo was beaten at a close range by R-99 and re-45 then I’d say it should only count as one slot and then u could use another. It again depends on if they rework the guns, if it comes down to it. All in all you guys came up with some cool ideas lol.

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