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Re: The official Matchmaking blog post

Season 23 rank matchmaking is ridiculous. I am done , u bet this is the last season for regular players gg ea you make events to make money and since season 6 matchmaking is worse than ever. 

16 Replies

  • Blekerodo's avatar
    Blekerodo
    Rising Ace
    1 year ago

    The new matchmaking is one big scam. Nothing has been implemented and there are no good changes in public games. I'm still losing 231141234 games in a row and who is killing me? Triple predator. Great changes.

  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    1 year ago

    Yea, it all works out in the devs brains and their artificial sample data.
    It doesnt account for Hot Drop Harry who pulls down everyones MMR in the team, it doesnt account for the suboptimal hitreg and bad servers here in europe ...
    In that case you play focused on placement ... and again get  punished by the system
    Your MMR will get lower and lower by being matched with brainiacs that got their rank and badges out of a vending machine, no wonder they lost over 3 million players in ranked since they introduced their matchmaking changes in S20 ... its simply not tailored to fit the needs, but for a certain target group ... which also now leaves the game in masses ... bet on the wrong horse and loose everything in the process.

    The MM was focused on triple stacks and pro streamers needs for far too long , but most people dont have a set team nor are they the beloved content creators.
    As i said , it might work out in theory but the reality shows ... people are fed up with all things related matchmaking  ... respawn really has a way doing things worse than before with every iteration.
    The devs write about the MM being a complicated system ... what happened to K.I.S.S. i would ask ? A major design principle in software development being thrown out of the window.
    Complicated  systems are prone to bugs/errors and can hardly be maintained by others that didnt take part in the initial build process, which leads to even more errors.
    Building on top of a flawed system is like building a brickwall house on quicksand, the house itself might look stable but that doesnt matter if the soil it is build on is fragile.
    Patch after patch after patch ... sometimes its just better to let go and build something from scratch.
    And i strongly believe that quite some engineers at Respawn told exactly that to their higherups , but their ideas got "killed" by the "upper foodchain" for the well known short lived business reasons.


  • Blekerodo's avatar
    Blekerodo
    Rising Ace
    1 year ago

    This is your excellent matchmaking. After a whole day of failing and dying quickly, Wattson suddenly appears in my lobby again and has 20k kills as the kill leader. Her skills are certainly as good as mine. What is this even supposed to be? This game is over.

  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    1 year ago

    2 years after the original blog post about matchmaking and here we are in the exact same place.  Player counts droppipng like a rock and absolutely nothing has changed.  This should be taught in college computer science curricula . . . "How to Create a Popular Video Game Service and then Completely Destroy It 101".

  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    1 year ago

    @Airish85Oh, we saw enough of "When respawn listen to pro-player advice" over the past years ... that is part of the reason we are at this point !
    Always the : "We bring in the players" ... no they dont ... they bring in the viewers ... not more not less.
    Players dont play the game bcs of some streamer, the play to have fun in the game ... 

  • Blekerodo's avatar
    Blekerodo
    Rising Ace
    1 year ago

    Every day I see the same people in the champion's squad or in mine (day by day they are repeated more and more often because I remember their nicknames). Will you do something with matchmaking on PC so that you can play with other people?

    I feel like I'm playing in a lobby with 100-200 people at most at any given time.

  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    1 year ago

    "As always, we look forward to your feedback and will keep you in the loop about what’s coming next. Until next time, Legends!"

    I wonder who believes that crap 

  • Blekerodo's avatar
    Blekerodo
    Rising Ace
    1 year ago

    In their case, silence is golden. They can never respond to serious problems and respond to important topics. This is standard on this forum.

    This game is dead for solo queue players. Public games are unplayable due to the world's worst matchmaking. When you play solo, you get weak friends, and you play with 3-stack masters who have several dozen thousand character kills and the best badges.

    Ranked games above diamond are also unplayable for the average person in solo queue. This means that for solo players this game is only suitable for trash.

  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    1 year ago

    @r1ggedgameApex is down to 47k players on Steam today . . . less than TF2 (17 years old!) and out of the Top 20.  Apex has just hurtled off the cliff. I'll always hold out hope that it can be resurrected, but right now things are at an all time low.

    I agree with the comments saying Apex is dead for solo queue players. I am (was?) one and have moved on to Fortnite of all games. Never thought I would but it's actually very fun. Much more low key, lots of variety, humor, nice graphics on a quality game engine (Unreal 5), and you still get tense fights and end games at times to get your competitive juices going. 

  • AreYouShivering's avatar
    AreYouShivering
    New Ace
    1 year ago
    @HappyHourSumwur Generally, it might be the worst year for all the biggest studios. Maybe it's a bit early to say that, but there's some gear change going on right now in the industry. Game studios with stick shifts can avoid the crash, but studios with automatic gearboxes will crash.
  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    1 year ago
    @HappyHourSumwur i only posted the steam numbers to show that everything they did S20+ was a big mistake .. they gained some players bcs as usual they promised smth huge but didnt deliver. Thats why most of those people which came back just left after S20 and it went straight downhill from there.
    Their brainiac idea to still keep crossplay after all the AA controversy just alienated both fractions ... but hey "As always ...they listen to our feedback" , right ?!?! LOL .
  • Blekerodo's avatar
    Blekerodo
    Rising Ace
    1 year ago

    Additionally, how can you play pubs in a solo queue if there is no penalty for leaving the game? Full teams wait patiently for the opportunity to respawn, and when playing solo, 99% of the time, after being knocked down, such people immediately leave the game. This is an additional difficulty for solo queue players that I forgot to mention.


    And again, in the pub, the triple predator in 3 stack on controllers kills me. Matchmaking is just one big joke. Crossplay + matchmaking with predators in one lobby means that no one wants to play your game anymore. EA, maybe you will start working with Respawn in the new year?

    Provide the option to disable crossplay for PC players and only allow MnK vs. MnK matchmaking. I'm tired of being cannon fodder for 3stacks on controllers.

    In the evenings, I play on EU servers with the same people every day. I already remember these nicknames by heart and I know in advance what character they will play. This is sick. Do I really have to be put in a lobby where 100 people are playing and they're just exchanging with each other all the time? This is sick.

  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    1 year ago

    "There is a loose correlation between actual skill (as measured in MMR) and a player’s RP value."
    Now that is a bold lie , there is no correlation between RP and skill

  • Blekerodo's avatar
    Blekerodo
    Rising Ace
    1 year ago

    Yes, a very loose correlation that one team may have triple pred (probably at least KD at level 3-4) with lvl 1 (usually a cheater). Great correlation along with anti-cheat protection. :D

    Pubs cannot be played because crossplay, sweating, too much skill disparity in one lobby. And in solo diamond rankings, I simply don't have the strength to fight with 3 stacks.

    Now my game looks like this: I play a dozen or so days a season and then take a month break until the next split, because there is no solo mode for a player who could feel the fun of the game.

    And so many hidden cheaters with configs and wallhacking. Mhm... I wonder when Apex will start detecting these wonders 🙂 If that were the case, several thousand more people would be immediately banned.

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