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Re: Who came up with the new BR ranked RP system?

@KelRiever I would maybe add/correct a bit what you said - for me rank is irrelevant, in BR I am looking for a great experience from doing coordinated teamwork and outsmarting enemy teams.

For me the main motivator is/was the win. A great bonus for that effort was 100 RP.

Yet for people who go only for rank, badge, drive-trail, k/d now there is one motivator less to actually try to do teamwork or win, they just go for the kills and push everything public style and seeing how it goes with hopes of getting as high multiplier as possible.
More incentives to go get kills ASAP, fail, d/c, repeat = exactly the same what we see in public games.

As for the "boring" gameplay - smarter people will just do the same they did now = not fight till like 5-8 teams have already died so they get some points even if they lose their first fight.
So chances are now that after the first few zones a hell will break loose, not sure if that is any better, more fun than current gameplay.

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  • Asmodeus566's avatar
    Asmodeus566
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    @Eshshshss 

    really stop knocking the ideas and or changes and do be a bit more consistent. 

    Lets see what the changes actually bring about, could be bad could be good. 

    Make constructive suggestions, try to be a part of the solution and not the problem.

    The game is about the win of course and team play. Like most of us and you have said. That should never change and like you said if you want to outsmart the other players and work as a team part of that is knowing which fights to fight and when not to fight. So playing for initial placement is never a bad Idea let some of the rash players/teams eliminate weaken each other so that your team can reap the rewards. I am not advocating camping but playing smart. 

    For us the community it is never easy trying to come up with and suggest good solutions to problems we see and or perceive.

    For the Dev's it is equally if not harder to find a balance. They have their idea's and hopefully see some of our idea's as well, a hard thing to juggle.

    Lets keep trying to make honest constructive suggestions and not counterproductive arguments.  I say that knowing that sometimes I get frustrated and do not follow what I am saying and apologize for any future rants I may have.

    Looking forward to next Tuesday (season 11) and all the good, bad and ugly it may bring.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago
    @Eshshshss Why in your example of next season are you removing the placement points? I expect they are still there as tad mentioned.
  • @Eshshshss I think you miss understand/miss read the patch note.

    There're only 2 changes in rank system:

    1. Maximum kill from 6 to 7 (Good thing).

    2. Change from 10 RP/kill-assist to dynamic RP/kill-assist based on enemy rank as shown below.

    Everything else stay the same.

    That means you can get more RP overall (if you kill 7 enemies with higher rank than you) and rank up faster.

    For example:  If you kill 7 enemies that rank 2 level above, you get 7*15=105 RP (instead of 70 RP, that is 35 RP extra ! ).

    Overall, that's a good thing !

  • @Eshshshss 

    The good thing is if you help your team mate killing higher level players, you get assist for that, which give extra points.

    Beautifull right ?

  • Eshshshss's avatar
    Eshshshss
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @Asmodeus566 I have made multiple postes about my suggestions under various sections - QOL improvements, feedback, general discussion etc.

    This post was just a reaction for those suggestions being a) ignored b) new policy being the exact opposite of what I personally suggested

    Gladly TAD844 calculation is more accurate as if RP will be only KP dependant this game will die from lack of players or hackers.
  • Eshshshss's avatar
    Eshshshss
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @asukojo I just don't get that info on the webpage.

    How I read it - you have two part of RP.
    One - number of kills multiplied by fixed number depending on the enemy level.
    Two - bonus points per kills depending on your placement.

    E.g. if I kill 4 ppl in the same level as I = 4*10 = 40 RP. Then if I place 2nd or 3rd my 4 KP are then multiplied by 10 = 40 more points. So for 4 KP 2nd/3rd place, I would get in total 80 RP.

    Yet again the text seems confusing, max RP of 175 just makes no sense e.g. if I kill 7 3 tier higher ppl in a game I should get 7*20 right from the kill bonus, then depending on placement if I place 1st I should get additional 7*15 -> 140 + 105 = that's already 245... how can 175 be max is not clear either or at some point with Max Kp you can't be bothered to play for placement and just die and go to the next game to save time...again that would be an awesome addition to the gameplay and community!
  • Tad844's avatar
    Tad844
    4 years ago

    @EshshshssI think I've finally figured it out. That max kp 7 bothered me too because it didn't make sense considering what was written below "9kp".
    It took me a while but I understand now.

    Ok so here it goes: in the new season they moved away from multipliers and instead changed it to addition. Kp is unlimited.

    Max RP you can get from KP is 175.

    Max RP you can get from placement is 100.

    Max RP you can get from a win with full kp is 275 (this is without subtracting the entry penalty).

    For a win in diamond with full kp the calculation would be this assuming you only get kills/assists on diamond players: 10x7(your kp)+ 15x7( 15 is the bonus RP you get for KP and it is tied to placement)+ 100 (this is the flat RP reward that you get from placement)- 48 (diamond entry)= 227 RP

    The higher your placement is the less KP you need to get in order to max your KP RP to 175. And those are my calculation:
    Full kp for a win is 7
    Full kp for a second place is 9
    Full kp for 3rd place is still 9
    Full kp for 4th place is 12
    Full kp for 5th place still 12
    Full kp for 6th-10th place is 15

    They have said they changed max kp from 6 to 7 but in fact they were referring only for the kp you need for max RP if you win. It's really confusing. But I think I'm 99% right.

  • @hayhor It really is, yes. Do you have any particular question I might help you with?
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago
    @Tad844 No I don't play a lot of ranked. When I do I play for fun without worrying about points anyway.

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