@DarthValtrex wrote:
@BurnYaBadYou’re not being fair to EA or Respawn.
They take cheating seriously. They are not public about what they do. Cheating impacts all online games. I have seen it in ALL of the other BR games on the market.
You don’t know what cross play is going to look like. None of us do, but let’s say they pull it off successfully and it’s fun for everyone. How is that a bad thing? We will have the option to game with friends on other platforms. They might give us the option to participate in cross play or not. You don’t know that it will be forced.
Respawn has put the least amount of effort into anti cheat that I've ever seen. They do basically nothing
@BurnYaBadand you would know this how?! They have not waited two years and they do quite a bit to combat cheating and abuse. They just don’t announce it.
They when dashboarding was an issue season 3 they did not give the dashboarders ranked rewards. I know dashboarding is different than hacks. But it’s one known example of how they combat people who abuse the system/cheat.
I spectated an unknown PC streamer who was questionable he got banned mid match.
@xTomboyRespecter how do we know they don’t have more than one person working the ToS department? AHQ gets people almost every day asking for bans to be lifted.
@DarthValtrexI'm sorry but I wholeheartedly disagree with your sentiment about not being fair to EA or Respawn.
They've had more than enough time for us to be fair towards them and for them to get serious. Instead they still ask us to use our time, our resources, and our energy to record cheaters then send them the proof.
Honestly, it's their turn to be fair towards us and show us that they're serious; good-faith has been exhausted in this respect.
Yes, you're correct; cheating impacts all games. Is that a reasonable excuse to continually do the bare-minimum against it? I don't think so. They should make it as troublesome as possible for both cheaters and cheat developers alike. I've made the suggestion before that they need to take more proactive measures against cheaters.
For example, EAC allows you to send in cheat programs to them so they can decompile it and add it to their blacklist. If EA/Respawn actually did this themselves and cut out the middleman (us) then it'd be practically guaranteed that the cheat developers would be crippled economically. It'd become economically unsound for them to try to keep modifying or creating new cheats when their cheats will be detected in less than a day.
These cheat makers don't make their money off of one purchase and one purchase isn't going to cover the cost of upkeep. They rely on mass sales and they're not gonna make any sales if word gets out that cheats are going down faster than the cheat makers can update/create them. At best, cheat providers would have to raise the price of their cheats to such an exuberant amount that most cheaters would be priced out of cheating and would either have to quit the game or just play legit.
So why doesn't EA/Respawn have a team dedicated to doing just that by procuring these cheats and then having those cheats blacklisted? Because they'd have to pay a few $$ and that's tantamount to negotiating with terrorists? Of course not; that's a ridiculous equivalence. Because they'd be supporting the cheat developers themselves? Of course not. As I've said above, these cheat developers would go out of business because their whole model revolves around mass sales and not one single sale. So if their product isn't working then they have nothing to sell and with nothing to sell then they go under.
This is just one example of an action that they could be taking against cheaters which they currently aren't exercising. Also, please don't tell me that it'd be economically unreasonable to have a team of 4-5 people doing just that. They'd be creating jobs and in the process securing their service (i.e. Apex Legends and other titles). In no way would this be a detriment to the existing team or their tasks.
It's not a crazy new idea that I just came up with in my spare time. I've seen companies with a smaller net income take advantage of exactly this type of strategy in order to secure their own services to great effect. I'm sure there's other strategies as well which I'm unaware of that'd have a similar effect.
So really, I'd say it's unfair for anybody to say to those of us that are justifiably disgusted at this point that we're just not being fair.
