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RaisinFlakes
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3 years ago

Ruminating

The apex universe is top notch. The characters, the writing, the lore, the voice acting, high production. Where it lacks is the laggy controls, the sbmm, the loot boxes. The marketing targeting children is especially concerning, however I don't assume bad intentions.

Two items:

Ruthless profit schemes hinder income short and long term. I don't have all the data but this is basic principle.

If apex is a competitive shooter it doesn't feel like one, just like a ford truck doesn't feel like a race car.

Just ruminating. Criticism breeds innovation. Good luck EA, gaming is the future. Previous and current cash tactics will not apply to the smarter upcoming generations. Transparency is key moving forward.

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  • swift07's avatar
    swift07
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    3 years ago

    @reconzero
    1. Even before the ring changes, you're not going to know where the circle ends when you drop out of the ship. You could be on the opposite side of the circle.
    2. Even if you landed somewhere with no other team, you might still not get what you want. One time, I've looted 2 buildings and 6 bins by myself, and came out with a p2020 and a 30-30.
    3. You can probably avoid it more so in pubs, but in ranked or competitive, you might not be able to. In pubs, a majority of the people land at popular POI's. In ranked or competitive, people land everywhere.
    4. Lots of things they can do. They can go ahead of you and gate keep you, they can push you, you can get sniped by them...there's a lot of things they can do to affect your game.

    I honestly think you should play ranked.  Might change your perspective on the game. 

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @swift07

    1. Maybe playing a mobility legend skews my view on this, although jump towers, tridents, and map knowledge are not the exclusive domain of Pathfinder.

    2. Not getting what you want is one thing, but you can always get something you can use until something better comes along.

    3. You're on to something here. I've flirted with harder lobbies and it seems to be true that they distribute themselves a lot more evenly over the map. Makes my life hell.

    4. Got it. Thanks.

    "I honestly think you should play ranked. Might change your perspective on the game."

    I'm a afraid this is more true than I'd like to admit, but it will never happen. I don't mind screwing over my teammates in pubs by being unwilling to be a team player, but I feel like that would just be too unsportsmanlike in ranked. And I despise any form of the game where people are encouraged to play for anything other than a win. But I still know what you mean. In any case, I'm sure the silver tiers can do just fine without me.
  • swift07's avatar
    swift07
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    3 years ago

    @reconzeromaybe our opinions differ so much because you don't play ranked. But man, you have to think...if you want real competition, teamplay and strategy, then you should play ranked. Most people in pubs don't care about anything besides getting kills.

    "And I despise any form of the game where people are encouraged to play for anything other than a win."  You shoot for a win, and maybe you won't get it, but you place 2nd or 3rd and get a good amount of RP.  Also, silver and gold tiers are like pubs. If you're a decent player, you should be able to get out of silver fairly quickly.  I honestly think silver and gold lobbies are more fun than pubs. They feel more like real games because people actually care about winning.

  • swift07's avatar
    swift07
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    3 years ago
    @reconzero 2. I've landed on POI's and ended up with weapons that weren't that great. Than...after I died because my weapons sucked, I think to myself...if I had this or that, I could've won that fight.
  • Unitee01's avatar
    Unitee01
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    3 years ago
    @reconzero What makes a game competitive is things being as close to equal (fair) as possible.

    I think of Apex BR along the same lines as pro wrestling royal rumble. You have a bunch of people from different weight classes all competing against each other and anything goes. Usually the biggest guy, or the guy who gets the steel chair or trash can 1st and knocks the other guy over the head wins. Or something along those lines...but I think you get the picture. There's no real fairness there, vs something like mma where weight and skill etc is as tight as possible.

    Same with Apex. There are different sized hitboxes, there are strong and weak weapons, strong and weak characters, limited ammo, random loot, shields of varying degrees and so on. Fundamentally it's pretty far away from being fair 1 on 1. Do the best players always win? Not necessarily, but usually. You could theoretically win without firing your gun. You could 3rd party the last 2 teams. You could win with 100 damage and 1 kill. Does that make you better than every one else in that lobby or just lucky? Food for thought 🙂
  • swift07's avatar
    swift07
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    3 years ago
    @Unitee01 lol nice comparison with pro wrestling. Yeah, I agree...there's a lot of luck factored into BR's. Also, as you've mentioned...there are advantages to different legends in different scenarios.
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Unitee01

    "You could theoretically win without firing your gun. You could 3rd party the last 2 teams. You could win with 100 damage and 1 kill. Does that make you better than every one else in that lobby or just lucky?"

    Any of those things happening once makes you lucky. If you seek to make them happen routinely then you are smarter than your opponents and will win more, which imo is a form of being better. And the only way that player is in an "uncompetitive" game is if the players who lose to him need a very narrow definition of "competitive" in order to justify their loss. Or so says me.


  • Unitee01's avatar
    Unitee01
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    3 years ago

    I don't disagree, but it was not what I was trying to say. People can play however they want.

    I'm saying there will be times where you will die to someone who can't shoot his way out of a paper bag and there will be times you take a win you didn't work for at all. It will happen to all of us, it's the nature of how BR works - it leans more towards fun and less towards true competition in many ways.

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