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reconzero
Seasoned Ace
2 months ago

Skill Assessment Change

Dear Respawn:

If you throw away your current skill assessment algorithm and adopted the following, what do you think would happen to the game???

Skill (mmr) would be calculated on the average accuracy across the individual player's three most-used automatics (minus any shots fired with no near enemy). There is the possibility that you should add the accuracy from their most-used marksman or sniper as well. Maybe even from their most-used pistol. I leave that to you.

My thinking is that this would remove any pretext that says, "This player is 90% accurate with autos but never wins, so it's okay to put him in lobbies where the average player can barely tell which end of the gun is which just because those players sometimes get carried and thus have "wins" on their record." I don't believe I've ever rage quit a match because an enemy out-flanked me, or the winning squad had and kept better position, or was even better coordinated over all. Those are all things I can understand, can actually SEE in the game, and can tolerate. But when the vast majority of players that I encounter can beat me in a close-range auto fight, then we have a bigger problem. Obviously in any fight one player will have superior aim. That's how fights are won and lost. But sometimes.... often?... sometimes you walk away from a fight and it was pretty clear the other guy didn't miss a single bullet, and I can't always be sure that mine even registered. But even if they did, if I'm facing off against a guy whose accuracy exceeds the ALGS average buy more than double... then I'm starting to not really care whether the guy is just good, lucky, or cheating. It just doesn't matter to me. All I'm thinking, as I'm rage quitting, is "In what world is there a matchmaking system that puts me in the same lobby with this guy?"

Now I get that matchmaking is necessarily loose in these golden years of the game. But let's at least start from a place of honesty where we compare apples to apples. MMR based on accuracy seems pretty simple, pretty manipulation-proof, and probably (unless I'm forgetting something) pretty fair.

Thoughts?

4 Replies

  • Blekerodo's avatar
    Blekerodo
    Seasoned Veteran
    2 months ago

    Everything is fine except the problem will be basically the same - there won't be enough players in matchmaking with such high accuracy and it will look for worse players to fill the lobby.

    The main problem is that if they don't extend matchmaking in order to find people for the lobby that best match your skills then nothing will change.

    People are already tired of this season and the Ash meta, that I thought (steam charts). At this rate we will lose all the players we initially gained by the end of this season. Interestingly, even handing out free Apex Packs doesn't seem to convince people to continue playing anymore.

    Let them continue making meta for a few characters in s25 and they will completely ruin this game.

    Then there will be no matchmaking at all. Everyone will play with everyone, because the game will try to let you into the first lobby as soon as possible.

    If you are not a professional, there is no fun in games with this matchmaking. In the lobby, 3stacks devastate all teams, and you have to be food for them, because matchmaking is not able to match other players at their high level.

    It's a shame that the creators still have our opinion at the point where the back meets the legs. I will keep repeating this until the end - Respawn's gameplay director - you destroyed a game that had huge potential in many ways.

  • Mmm... almost like the game is population heavy now in 2 of 5 types... skewing all the matchmaking. ;) 

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    2 months ago

    I spammed the "like" button, but it would still only give you one "like!"

  • Blekerodo's avatar
    Blekerodo
    Seasoned Veteran
    2 months ago

    True. Their "new matchmaking" is that if you win one game or take a few better places, don't have any personal greater achievements - you go to the lobby to be devoured by strong people.

    And what they write, that they mainly take into account the last few matches and the amount of damage done, is a lie. I used to be stuck in one and the same lobby for the best for hours, even though I was lying on the ground every now and then (causing virtually no damage).

    The ranked games are full of sweat, and the pubs are even worse.

    There is no mode where you can "chill out", "relax" and have fun with the game.

    You are just constantly being loaded into the hardest lobbies, playing for 30 seconds and looking for the next game for 2 minutes. This is Apex Legends in s24.

    You can only see this sweat everywhere, tap strafe, wall jumps, the opponent never misses... I feel like I'm playing with machines, not people... And how to play it with pleasure? You can no longer play this game for pleasure. They've already completely killed it.