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xXKrazy_SpadeXx's avatar
2 years ago

Skill based matchmaking

I am absolutely fed up with this “skill based matchmaking.” I am a prestige 1 lvl 211. My highest ki11 character is pathfinder, and that is only 1,379. My k/d is only 0.98. It never moves. Pls explain to me how I get put into matches with people that have 10’s of thousands of kills. I D1E every time I land no matter where it is. Skill based matchmaking need an upgrade. I shouldn’t have to put up with this. It is so hard to have fun on this game anymore…

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  • @xXKrazy_SpadeXx

    Question 1) Which do you consider yourself:
    -Below Average
    -Average
    -Above Average

    Question 2) Do you you think your results (wins, kills, placement) are:
    -Below Average
    -Average
    -Above Average

    Please answer both questions and consider your skills and experience compared to the WHOLE Apex community.

  • You have double my KD and triple my highest kills per legend. Now why would I also see the same enemies as you?
    Either people can admit that the MM is broken or excuse that you got carried in that one match yesterday into Top3 so you are in the world of * for the next two weeks now. 

  • @xXKrazy_SpadeXx

    I'm seeing the typical focus on kills and k/d, which is fine, but which only tells part of the story. This is a complex game and your ability to hit targets with high accuracy is not the only skill set involved. I would be curious to know more about your win rate before I rush to judgment on your k/d.
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @xXKrazy_SpadeXx

    I've said before, and I'll reiterate here: I believe the matchmaking algorithm judges your skill and uses that data as part of the way it matches you. It also looks at how "hot" you like a match to be to give you a "willingness" mmr. I think the games sees your total matches, total kills, and total wins, and makes the deduction (right or wrong) that you favor engagement over strategy, and it extrapolates a willingness to keep queueing up regardless of wins, regardless of k/d, as long as you get gun fights, even when you don't win them. If I had to guess I would say that you probably prefer to be fighting as soon as you hit the ground, or as soon after as possible. Would I be stretching to say that you've even been known to abandon your jumpmaster if you felt the drop was too cold?

    If you demonstrate to the game that you want action above any other factor then the game will feed you into the meat grinder. If you start playing it cooler and more strategically, then odds are good your kills per match will go down, your win rate will probably go up, and the game will think you're less willing to allow yourself to be fed to better players just for an adrenaline fix.

    It's all just a theory, but it seems to work that way for me.

  • Kyldenar's avatar
    Kyldenar
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @xXKrazy_SpadeXx wrote:

    @reconzero 

    My career games is 6,650. My career wins, 170.


    So, shooting skills, but no tactical and environmental awareness. Sounds like a Type 3.

    Would have to see more stats and how you play to be sure, but sounds to me like you are a Type 3 that doesn't realize you're a type 1 or 5. A type 1 could have easily ground out those kinds kills/KDR while still having that low a win percentage.

    170 / 6650 = 0.02556390977443609022556390977444, so about a 2.6% win rate. All things being equal, that should be closer to 5% (about one in 20 games, in other words).

    That tells me you are pulling 3rd and 4th parties, engaging fights you shouldn't be starting, and the like, but again, hard to know without seeing you in action. But this is stuff @reconzero and I have seen a lot.

    This is my stats in middle of season 14 about a week or so before I basically stopped playing (so around Sept 2022, I stopped shortly after season 15 dropped, after being disappointed with Catalyst). I left it alone, played maybe 20 matches in season 15, then uninstalled from PC, so not enough extra matches to be far off these numbers. I'm not going to re-install just to get current data.

    That gives me, a just level 350 player with a crap 0.26 KDR about a 3% win rate (576 / 2210). With your KDR being so much higher than mine, if you were being tactically smart and situational aware, picking your fights, you'd have a much higher win rate than I would as opposed to mine ending a little above yours.

    So, you either need to slow down and stop hot dropping (or stop following a hot dropping team) or find a team that is like minded and similar skill.

    Or, you know, just accept you are food for the Type 1 and Type 2 players.

    Just my opinion, based on what I see.

  • @xXKrazy_SpadeXx The matchmaking in Apex is complete garbage. I consider myself fairly average, my KDR ranges between 0.9 and 1.15 or so depending on the season. I get matched with and against people way better than me all the time. Whatever Apex uses to measure "skill", it is completely wrong.

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