Smurfing and SBMM are beyond a joke
Adding the option to report smurfing is a step in the right direction but it’s not enough, and half the time it doesn’t let you anyway! I’m not sure if this is because people just set themselves to o...
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@Axs5626Sxa5001
The league you are referring to is composed of the first n (20?) teams. That is like saying that the first 20 teams on Apex's leaderboards will have a tournament every Sunday -for the duration of a season to see who is the more consistent team of all qualified to participate. And in that case every team will fight every other team.
However, the Dallas Cowboys will never be matched against my amateur team, because it would be violating ANY criteria of a fair match.
In the same way, you as a master will be placed against adversaries of similar skills, which include Diamonds at times, and Preds, as preds are the firts 750 in the masters rank.
If matchmaking were working that way (like you claim it works for masters) also at lower skill levels, it would be fantastic. It is not. I get preds/masters and diamonds, despite having a .7 k/d and a 1.6% win rate.
Look, my win rate is 1.62% this season so far. It went from 3.8% past season to half of it, or less. By the way, I am only a gold 3.....and cannot make it past it....
Why should I (and others like me) be punished, and be made to play against opponents we cannot defeat?
Is it possible that your friends have more Ws because they play more than you do?
@Vdstrk While I agree you shouldn’t be in a lobby full of masters/preds, you saying that you NEVER want to see them locks us into the “everyone should only play opponents as close to their skill as possible argument.”
Which scenario is more offensive:
You (an average/below average player) occasionally engaging a Master/Preds and it resulting in you having a 1.6% win rate
Or
Me (an above average player) EXCLUSIVELY playing Master/Preds and it resulting in a 1.2% win rate.
Unfortunately, I feel like the latter is more offensive.
Which scenario is more offensive:
You (an average/below average player) occasionally engaging a Master/Preds and it resulting in you having a 1.6% win rate
Or
Me (an above average player) EXCLUSIVELY playing Master/Preds and it resulting in a 1.2% win rate.
Unfortunately, I feel like the latter is more offensive.
- @Axs5626Sxa5001
You are fighting opponents accessible to you. Sure you have to put effort in it to win.
How many hours do you play Apex each week? @Vdstrk
I play several hours daily (for the most part). Lifetime games: 21.5K
You referenced the word “effort”. When I started, I wasn’t very good. I put in the “effort” to improve, and now I lose more than I did when I wasn’t very good. LOL
What is the point of being competent at an activity if I don’t see the benefits of said competence. Why should I have to put in the same AND OR more effort than below average players when my results are the same or even worse?Do you place at least 80 hours per week in Apex? that is the standard for top players from what I see, if not more.
Is it possible that you plateaued? Not everyone will go on to become a champion. I mean, we only have few Floyd Maywheater(s).
The benefit you see is being a master, and the privilege of competing with "better" players than average, and having a chance nevertheless.
It is in having achieved masters.
My question to you is, what is the point for me, and players like me to fight against top ALGS players? the difference is so big that it does not even serve as a learning experience.@Vdstrk
It comes down to frequency and variance. You are not playing against these types of players often. I highly doubt you have a premade ALGS team in each of your lobbies. I know this because they are in MY lobbies, and you are not dropping in my lobbies consistently. Sometimes you will run into a pro, but that is the lesser evil than me ONLY playing them.- @Axs5626Sxa5001
I think your win rate is definitely linked to that.
IMO, you have everything necessary to be great, you maybe lack the time (that being due to school or work, or anything more important in your life) it takes at that level to truly shine.
Good job getting there by the way! - @Vdstrk Thank you and I wish you well. Obviously we disagree but the fact remains that we both want people enjoying the game.
@Axs5626Sxa5001 wrote:
@Vdstrk Thank you and I wish you well. Obviously we disagree but the fact remains that we both want people enjoying the game.I was just thinking of posting a comment to say thank you to you guys for maintaining such a respectful conversation on a potentially contentious subject.
@Axs5626Sxa5001
Thank you. It's ok having different opinions!I agree on that! (having fun in game!)
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