I play Apex with my brother and the experience is worse than solo queuing. It really is only enjoyable for us to play together about 20% of the time. I just don't understand why Apex can't tell when we get rolled 10 or even 15 times in a row. Last night was particularly bad...at one point my brother had 3 kills in 15 games and just quit playing after that.The game must automatically put you in a higher lobby when in a pre-made party of 2 or 3 because we are almost always way out of our depth. We are both 0.6 KDR players working on our comms and on breaking bad habits from other FPS's. We know what we are but we really can't get any reps when we die so quickly in our first gunfight almost 3/4 of the time.

@HappyHourSumwur Unfortunately when in a premade you get prioritized into lobbies with other premades and better solos. It can be brutal.Are you playing duos or trios. If duos I'd stop doing that. Duo premades is the sweatiest thing there is. Me and a friend take out chances with random 3rds as we can 2v3 more normal lobbies more often than do well in duos.

@HappyHourSumwur I agree ranked is way more difficult now compared to before. Smurfs are everywhere in bronze-silver too. Hope that they do some changes for ranked. I want them to increase the level requirement to at least 50 and have an overhaul of the RP system.

@HappyHourSumwurHonest question: Where do you think you rank in regarding skill in the ENTIRE community, percentage wise.For reference, the average player is at the 50% mark. What percentage are you?Furthermore, what do you think an “average” player’s performance and outcomes should be? The average player currently wins about 3-5% of their matches. I would argue that having a KD of around 1 is what the average player has. But the game is complex and overall skill isn’t directly captured by one stat.I ask these questions to many people because it forces them to consider how SBMM “should” work in their mind.I know people that think SBMM should be looser in pubs, where players of all skill play each other and the better players have better outcomes. Conversely, I know people that think that everyone should always and only play their current equal; these people believe players should all struggle equally at all times regardless of skill.What are your thoughts?

@HappyHourSumwur SBMM absolutely ramps up when you premade. I play much better when I solo-queue, but have more fun when I play with my two buddies, and play worse. I've already introduced the rock and hard place to each other, so now I'm just a bystander whilst they talk.I know that doesn't help your situation at all, but I just wanted to let you know that you're not crazy, Lol

There isn’t enough premade squads at your skill level. Premades are placed in lobbies with other premades with sprinkled soloQ players to fill duo premade squads (that’s a lot premades lol). As I’ve mentioned before in another thread, these premade lobbies generally has mostly plat-diamond level players. This is where I play most of my games since I play with my friends 90% of the time. And if ever kill a sweaty 3 stacking preds or masters, toxicity suddenly fills our bodies and it’s time to teabag. LMAO.

Solo queue better than pre-made party

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pandareno1999
Hero+
3 years ago
I used to play about an even amount of solo queue and a mix of duos and trios with a duo partner. I've always found solo q a mixed blessing, I would get better stats but not enjoy myself very much. I had one session of solo q at the beginning of S11 and it was so tilting that I decided to not do it at all, unless I needed to. I lucked into my two duo partners having sufficient time to play between them that I dispensed with solo q entirely this season.

What I have found interesting is that I was able to maintain only just slightly lower stats than I did last season, without padding them by means of the easier, solo queue lobbies. I'm not sure how this worked. Perhaps it was a combination of improvement and somewhat more forgiving matchmaking?
Zkepz
3 years ago
@pandareno1999 wrote:
Watching conversations here and on reddit, it sounds like this season, at least, is extremely rough in the lower ranks.
Ye if you was stupid enough to take a 14 day xmas vacation with the split and all you were shafted this season, when I came back there were smurfs everywhere so climb is painfully slow with my team, but soloing is still fairly ok though, seems like most smufs go with their diamond, master, pred buddies to make clips.
Cheese9Man
3 years ago
@HappyHourSumwur I agree ranked is way more difficult now compared to before. Smurfs are everywhere in bronze-silver too. Hope that they do some changes for ranked. I want them to increase the level requirement to at least 50 and have an overhaul of the RP system.
Axs5626Sxa5001
3 years ago
@HappyHourSumwur

Honest question: Where do you think you rank in regarding skill in the ENTIRE community, percentage wise.

For reference, the average player is at the 50% mark. What percentage are you?

Furthermore, what do you think an “average” player’s performance and outcomes should be? The average player currently wins about 3-5% of their matches. I would argue that having a KD of around 1 is what the average player has. But the game is complex and overall skill isn’t directly captured by one stat.

I ask these questions to many people because it forces them to consider how SBMM “should” work in their mind.

I know people that think SBMM should be looser in pubs, where players of all skill play each other and the better players have better outcomes. Conversely, I know people that think that everyone should always and only play their current equal; these people believe players should all struggle equally at all times regardless of skill.
What are your thoughts?
pandareno1999
Hero+
3 years ago
The figure for "average" KDR in this game is typically given at around .7 or so.
HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 I honestly think I'm below average. My KDR in ranked is around 0.4 and overall for the season it is 0.79 and going down slowly. Even if you show me stats though, it won't change how I feel about getting melted regularly while struggling to do the same to enemies myself. At times I feel like I'm 1 or 2 bullets or keystrokes away from winning the fights I lose. Other time I feel like I'll never get any better so I should just quit.

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