The Cheater Problem is Artificial
All I see on the forums is complaining about cheaters. I have yet to see a single person I truly, without a doubt, can say is a cheater. I've been playing games for way too long and for most of my ti...
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16000 is a large number indeed. That is until you consider the player base of 25000000. It's .00064 of the players. Sure, theirs plenty more to be caught. But stop acting like half the people you see are cheaters lol.
@JimehBoBimeh wrote:16000 is a large number indeed. That is until you consider the player base of 25000000. It's .00064 of the players. Sure, theirs plenty more to be caught. But stop acting like half the people you see are cheaters lol.
25 mil registered users not actual players. Last reported (as far as I remember) it was 2 mil concurent players at its peak. Yeah 16k is still nothing compared to 2 mil but that's still 16k less cheaters to worry about.
Oh wow so 16k out of 2m.
Still a very low percentage. You guys are responding in such a way that makes me think you feel personally attacked. Why?
All I'm saying is that there is far less cheaters than this forum leads you to think there are. I'm willing to bet that many of these posts are made from people coming out of a game where they just got laser beamed and are upset about it. They think they got killed by a hacker because they want to validate themselves, sorry but it's probably true based on the posts I've been seeing.I've seen it for years and years. Someone questioned how long I've been playing - well I'd say competitively since CS 1.3 so that's around 2001. 18 years is probably older than some of you. Through out all that time I've seen the same thing over and over again. People calling hax way too often. I've personally been banned more than a few times from pub servers because of cheat accusations - Again not a brag. I'm NOWHERE near as good as Shroud. but what if you went against him unknowingly? Would you think he was cheating? I'm gonna go ahead out on a limb here and say yes based off what I've been seeing here in the forums.
Perhaps I should have titled the thread "Artificially Inflated" or something like that idk... The title makes sense to me. You guys are making it out to sound like there is a hacker in every single one of your games. There more than likely is not. Guns have very low recoil, aiming is easy and getting consecutive head shots with the wingman really isn't hard at all. Seeing silhouettes through smoke is fairly easy and who's to say that person who "killed you thru smoke omg" didn't have a digital threat? Same thing, over and over again.
Once again, for the record, THERE ARE CHEATERS IN THIS GAME. I am WELL aware of that. Cheating is a problem, nobody likes it. Just stop over blowing the situation.- 16000 x 60 Players in each match, we can have 1 cheater in the next 1 million matches... in the worst case, 1 cheater every two games...
Not to mention that there are a multitude of hackers that have not yet been caught
@VPPTrue wrote:Oh wow so 16k out of 2m.
Still a very low percentage. You guys are responding in such a way that makes me think you feel personally attacked. Why?
All I'm saying is that there is far less cheaters than this forum leads you to think there are.I think what we have here is a classic miscommunication. OP said "artificial", what he meant was "inflated" or "misrepresented."
EDIT: I don't feel like I have that big of problem with them. Had one on team before and know I've been killed by several, but few and far between. I'd like to say I've been killed by more and maybe I have. Also, I'm sure people think I'm cheating when I get lucky with a double headshot from wingman or r99 laser.
- @VPPTrue You are seriously missing the point.
"All I'm saying is that there is far less cheaters than this forum leads you to think there are. I'm willing to bet that many of these posts are made from people coming out of a game where they just got laser beamed and are upset about it. They think they got killed by a hacker because they want to validate themselves, sorry but it's probably true based on the posts I've been seeing."
Again, this is from your perspective. Today, I have played a total of 20 game. In those 20 games, I reported 6 aimbotters. Since you can only spec players that kill you or maybe their team and later other people, however, my cheater was the one that killed me.
Now these are just the obvious ones. Aimbot is too easy to spot. ESP on the other hand is slightly difficult if they know how to hide it, but noobs don't hide them and they are out there by the numbers.
Simply, for some odd reason, you do not see it or do not experience (consider yourself lucky) because A LOT of players actually do.
Again, you are coming here with "Shroud" this, "Shroud" that, honestly, stop with this. Players like that should not be held the standard. I have been playing CS and any possible shooters on the PC. I was even in the big leagues back in the days of CS 1.5 and 1.6 (professional), and have been part of some of the largest communities and acted as a administrator for anti-cheat and all. I have seen my fair share of the most difficult wallhackers and ESPers there are.
From my perspective, I am telling you; there are A LOT of cheaters in this game. This is not just a gut feeling. And yes, I know people call 'hax' way too fast because skilled players are also numerous. Nevertheless, this is a major problem in this game.
If you only search in google for the keywords since the first few reports you would know that the price for those cheats have more than tripled. This means that demand is extremely high, and the creators are getting rich. So I hope EA/devs are going to sue their *. It happened in Fortnite too.
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