Timmy & Hal on the state of the game

Fortnite is easy to tell the player population because it’s public and all the player counts are displayed for each mode. They def aren’t declining there, depending on the season they are still hitting several millions active at one given point in time. Pubg is tougher to tell since all we have are steam numbers but that also shows their monthly peaks are about 100k higher than they were this time last year as to where apex is very evidently losing players. 

apex’s biggest problem imo isn’t just keeping players. It’s that it isn’t getting new players and when they do they quit pretty early on because the new player experience in this game is horrendous. Unless they come up with a system to get new players playing and actually sticking with the game it’s just going to continue slowly bleeding.

the game doesn’t need an apex 2, but doing what Fortnite does and did might help, instead of just keeping it rolling with apex season whatever maybe it’s time for them to hit it with their own version of apex chapter 2, or apex 2.0. Make some fairly large changes to hero’s, change up the map pool, vault some weapons and introduce some new ones, upgrade servers and it’ll def bring a huge influx of players. But that’s also easy for me to say.