What are Apex Predator lobbies like?

Hello! 

I'm not a Predator nor a Master however I do hit Diamond practically every single season (expect for this one because I haven't played that much). 

So the way that I look at ranked is like this, bronze, silver and gold lobbies are pretty much all the same with gold being that tad bit harder but I mean its literally just a tad. When you get into Plat especially early on in the season it's very sweaty because the game style completely changes. You can no longer run around like you are in a pubs game running into buildings or trying to 1v2 squads as it just will not work, you also have to remember that Predator and Master level players and squads are still present in these lobbies due to the reset and they are at a significantly higher level than every single team in the lobby. 

My advice is always to make sure that you are in a pre-made squad. This makes life so much easier and you just have that slight edge as communication from Plat upwards is key. 

Ideally, you want to rack up some early KP (2+), you want to grab a 3rd party mid way through the game where you might grab another 1-3 KP and then you want to focus on getting a good position and making it into that top 3.

What you need to remember is you are capped on how much KP you can get, so getting early KP is very good because you can chill and relax and focus on where the game is ending, your route to make it there and then you don't have to worry about getting kills. 

Always note that if you have 1-2 KP and there is 4 squads left you HAVE to fight again at some point, so you'll get more KP you just need to be patient. 

If you're solo queuing in Plat then follow the same process but you just need to be more selfish. You don't always get good teammates, so if you have your KP early doors and your teammates are playing like fools then go off on your own, play the boring slow game but at least you will be progressing. It's called 'ratting' it's not the most appealing game play but it just needs to be done at times on this game. 

Diamond lobbies are a complete game changer, they are so hard it's practically like you are playing a completely different game because you don't have the time to miss your shots. Everything has to be so precise. If you can solo queue out of Diamond then man, you are a seriously good player. 

This is the best advice I could think of, if you have any more questions let me know! 🙂 

Unless you like not playing the game I wouldn't bother. The META is not fighting until you absolutely have to because last circle. Teams will run away from you every chance they get. Their precious RP is on the line, so avoiding fights until last circle and playing a loot simulator keeps them at the Pred rank.  

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@Axs5626Sxa5001 wrote:
@shtupurgnamakit

The common strategy used in Master and Pred lobbies is to intentionally land with a team or two to ensure KP early. Once KP is earned, there is a heavy emphasis on positioning; playing edge of ring very conservatively at this point is common.

Like most competitive activities, small mistakes at the high level means failure. In Apex, a small mistake will usually result in you getting melted, lol. Because of the strong focus on not making a mistake, these lobbies tend to play slow (as most teams are trying to be conservative).

Advice on improving:
Even though Silver, Gold, and Plat lobbies allow you to make mistakes, force yourself to play as if one mistake equals disaster. You’ll find yourself surviving far longer. Overall, this isn’t terribly fun (to me), but it does work.

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Thank you for your advice and to everyone that replied. I'll take what you said and try to get diamond. Much appreciated friend. 

Edit: I have tried the accept solution button for your reply but it will not work. Sorry in case you were wondering. Maybe a mod could put it through. Edit: It worked now.

@shtupurgnamakitin game since 03.2021, hit D4 in my 3rd split? and been there even since.

Can you do it without a set squad - yes, BUT you have turn off public style play (as mentioned in the previous comments you can't push everyone, rush, make many incorrect decisions), in many cases you need to give up on getting up your teammates or their banners and favor placement points = camp, avoid enemies as long as you can. Be ready for 20+ min games where you get +4 RP and no kills (well with the new system probably math will change and you will get even fewer points for 0 KP games).

With at least 1 regular and similarly skilled player for me getting Diamond 4 was easy, we literally won every 5th game or so.

Diamond+ lobbies = pain, suffering, hacker paradise.

The biggest change for me was hackers.
I knew the basics and my playstyle was far from the public so that was not an issue, I was used to slow phase, low KP games and that does not trigger me.
Hackers - another story.

You see ppl all day long in every lobby who pretend to be really good at the game, some of them are, but most of them are just plain hackers or very good hackers (even worse).

No recoil in my opinion is almost a must for all who get there, that's what you will see spectating your killers, most of them will have dead-on steady crosshair no matter the gun or distance.

Another thing you need to understand is that Diamond lobbies basically is cannonball meat for Masters and Predators (due to their numbers) = Matchmaking pushes weaker Diamond level players into Masters and Predators rather than add lower-ranked Platinum4-1 players into Diamond lobbies. So you as a first time Diamond can just bet that every fight you take is not even close to 50/50, more like you are lucky if it is 40/60 or 30/70, most of the time I kept dying like back in the days when I started the game - you just have no clue how they killed you so fast and you missed all of your shots.

The last weeks of each split are nightmare hacking wise - ppl boost wannabes who will do anything for a badge and trail, so e.g. last week a day where I play 5 games and in 4 I get eliminated by a hacker was no surprise, instead of playing ~50 games per day like I used to, I limited myself to <10, because it is just pointless.

Finally, room for error in Diamond is pretty much zero:

• you get broken - most of the time enemy team will just jumpad/rush you
• you get knocked - 100% of a time enemy team will push you
• you don't shoot at the enemy squad constantly e.g. relocate during the fight or all team heals at the same time - you will get pushed 100% of a time
• you miss 50% of your shots - you are dead
• ppl get to you close range - will probably 3 shot you from Eva or Wingman or land a whole mag from an automatic weapon
• you fight longer than ~1 min - you will get 3rd partied 100% of a time
• you miss rotation and go through choke - you will be met by a team camping it
• you think that enemy should come from point A - they will, most of them will at the worst possible time for you thanks to the fact that many use wallhack to see what is going and time their attacks perfectly
• etc.

My suggestion - get do Diamond 4, by that time preferably get 2 people who are ready for the pain and grind, do your best, see how it goes. If you are similar to me and just see no point = quit ranked or the game until Respawn takes care of hackers aka pro aka players who train aka players who know rotations and any other marketing therm you will hear along the way when accusing not 100% clear hackers that just plainly aimbot.

@Eshshshss Thank you for the information. I'll apply it and try my best. If I can't get diamond, honestly that's ok. Again thanks.

Apex going downhill hit d4 always full pred/master lobbies how this game fair on console all preds just pure cheaters with strike packs and everything watching wraith down someone’s over 155m with car smg with 1x it’s bull this game if don’t improve any time soon I’ll be uninstall game for ever so will my team as we all getting bored of cheaters