What do you think of S16 so far?

Nothing to get me to re-install on PC and nothing to make me want to play much past next week to unlock Ash for free on PS4.

So long as the matchmaking remains broken, this season is an absolute disappointment. The fact that they KNEW this season needed to be great, and they thought it was smart to bring everyone's least favorite map into rotation is absolutely mond boggling to me. It would've been smart to at least bring kings canyon and Olympus into rotation.  But no, STORMPOINT??? All I wanted from this season was a matchmaking fix, or just remove the current matchmaking system. But no, same old matchmaking that punishes me for performing well and makes it easier to just go solo.

@EdwardDLuffy

I have mixed feelings.

1) Nemesis is OP on purpose but I like it.
2) Class rework is overall positive. The CP insight passive is a little weak, but other than that it is pretty good. Adding a different type of bin with a secret compartment for 'smart loot' is totally fine. The Ring Console addition and Recon Beacon rework all makes sense as well, just takes getting used to. Haven't played a game yet where anyone crafted banners, so I'm not sure how much that is getting used TBH.
3) TDM is a complete cluster fiesta plagued by people leaving early. It is basically 6v6 Arenas with the Control weapon kit selection. Respawn obviously doesn't playtest with real people. All the hype for something that seems to have been thrown together overnight from pieces of other game modes.
4) Map updates are entirely cosmetic and have no impact on gameplay in any way I can tell. Aside from the Mirage a Trois, it is just cute balloons and streamers.
5) Legend balance changes are all pretty decent. BH's white raven ability is fine but seems very choppy on my system. Love the Mirage changes since I mained him for a while & still play him a bit. Seers aren't everywhere so I think his nerf actually worked to keep his pick rate down.
6) Menu updates are nice but there are so many other QOL ideas out there that they haven't done I can't help wondering why they spent the time on just reorganizing the menus.
7) Firing range updates are long overdue & much appreciated. Kudos on those.

8)  NONE OF THIS MATTERS UNTIL THEY FIX THE MATCHMAKING!!

@EdwardDLuffy Not sure but i'm struggling way more this season so far. Could be because Masters are still below in the ranks though.

Also i hate the map rotation. Two maps i hate the most and then WE that has been there for the entire last season. Where's Olympus? Some devs were even overconfident and said we could see it very soon (it was in the last couple of weeks of S15), so maybe next time how about not saying anything? 

I like the class changes, legends changes, and even the weapon meta (BUT Nemesis is too broken, it needs a nerf asap).

Also no changes to ranked is really making it worse. Combine it with the same old trash matchmaking in pubs and if you look deeply into the game nothing changed that much.

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@reconzero wrote:
@EdwardDLuffy

New map rotation: glad SP is back, although I may well be the only player in the entire game that feels that way.

TDM: You have got to be kidding me? This was the most requested game mode? Well, I hope those sweatty predators love their new quitfest. No one else does.

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Not only, I do like the map only because it's the only one where the layout actually forces people to consider it's a BR and not just play it like hot-drop Deathmatch.

Speaking of TDM, all these people that still want to hot-drop like it's TDM on the PS4 when I play BR, why are you all not leaving BR and using TDM like intended!? It's literally made for you!

Ugh, nothing to make me want to come back really, after next week when I unlock Ash on the PS4 for free, I'm out till next season at least. Maybe longer, as they have given up on any PvE or single player content for Casual Players.

Type 5's leaving is the precursor to Type 3s and 4s leaving, then the whole thing starts to fall apart.

So what was at the end of of this 'rainbow'  that one of the devs kept hyping up to compensate for the overly long S15 exactly? it just seems nothing more than hot air & BS.The only positive aspect of S16 I've seen so far is the 'Nemesis' but it's so OP it's only a matter of days surely before it's nerfed to oblivion (it's Respawn always does).

And as for the negatives;

*MM is absolutely atrocious & I speak as a solo queuer where it constantly seems I'm constantly pitted against lobbies full of pre-mades.

*Match-fill is still a big problem where I'm still often a teammate (or two) in Trios.Does Respawn's so-called SBMM think I'm that good a player that I'm pitted on my own without any teammates against pred-squads or is it match-fill? definitely the latter.

*Dog-water servers,they are still pretty temperamental to say the least.

*No changes to any maps.I genuinely believed that one of the reasons for the long S15 was to allow enough time to carry out much needed substantial map changes like replacing Fragment etc but no changes at all so far not a carrot.Also just to mention the 3 worst Apex maps are on rotation only(for me anyway) 

*Frame rate issues.I too have been experiencing terrible frame rate issues particularly when a fair amount of enemies are on screen.

*No 120hz next gen upgrade.Apparently this upgrade may not happen until S17 or S18.

*No Unreal 5 engine upgrade.Many performance related issues & bugs have been blamed on the age old Unreal 4 engine so surely the next gen Unreal 5 engine would iron out these problems (like Fortnite implemented this season) 

*Audio issues.This has always been an issue in Apex since day zero but strangely the audio this season just sounds worse.

*Class Re-works.The Class grouping works in part but some of the characters are in the grouping & some of the categories need a lot more balancing out.

*Daily/Weekly Challenges catered more for BR this season.The 2 previous seasons (S14 & S15) I managed to complete the Battle Passes buy playing mostly Arenas.But now Arenas has gone to complete the S16 Battle Pass most of the daily/weekly challenges or more focussed around BR mode.

*TDM.I'm generally a big fan of TDM (in other games anyway) & was one of those 'guilty players' who was advocating for Apex to implement the mode among the LTM's but just not in it's current guise.TDM was never going to work as a best of 3 rounds (30 kills per round) so was it any wonder players were/are deserting matches en masse as matches were dragging like a seals backside.In all honesty even playing first to 50 kills just feels like a chore at times too &  penalizing quitters isn't exactly going to make the mode any more interesting or any better to play either.I just think that patching in Arenas Maps that were designed to accommodate a  3X3 mode just doesn't fit in extending  them to a 6X6 mode.Maybe just maybe reduce the mode to 30-40 kills and/or instead of 6X6 have 4X4X4 matches (or both).

Brand new season same old issues I'm afraid in what feels like nothing more than a short filler season.

Pure cancer. All 3 worst maps in rotation, nemesis is aimbots dream, deathmach is aimbot fest without any order....

Guns: Nemesis: Good and bad, Why you say? Well if you can aim or as others have stated using anything to "Assist you" to hit your targets then it's stupidly op. The legendary skins are absolutely bad, it's like someone just gave up on creativity, so it means epic skins are the only thing worth getting for the Nemesis. 

R99: Well that's back as meta, a lot of people have gone back to that and wingman which i thought was meant to have stopped a few seasons back to try and get people to use other guns and stuff. 

Maps: Don't like them, would prefer Kings Canyon and Olympus. 

Legends: Good changes overall, though weird that we don't have a new legend like we normally get, so hopefully halfway through we get a new legend or 2 new ones next season to make up for not getting one this season. 

Teams: What's the point of playing till the new sbmm is in place, a player returning from about 3 seasons ago should not be put against diamonds, masters or preds after two games back, the lobbies are full 3 stack teams, sweats, top tier badges and your two members are basically fresh from training mode and so when you go down, you effectively have to just go "Well it's over now back to the lobby." 

New game mode TDM: Well a interesting idea, does it work? Not really.. people quit or they just don't even load into the game and then it turns to hell, because it can end up 2 vs 6 and the two can't do much as you get blasted from all angles and you have to basically let them kill you over and over till the match is finished or suffer a time penalty for leaving. 

Overall thoughts: This season needs to be thought out more, it feels like a let down and yet it had potential to be good and if the sbmm is broken after the new system is in place then i will probably just stop playing altogether and move on to something that is actually fun and not make me want to pull my hair out every match.