@KyldenarWhat do you mean disingenuous bro? This is literally how things work. Are you suggesting people who use controller can't shoot straight without a strike pack? People can, for sure, but there is at least some people who use it no doubt. Not all, for sure.
The point is I'm not complaining about it. I'm just saying that controller and mnk is different enough that it makes enough of a difference in gameplay numbers so that they should not be sharing lobbies. This is not saying cheating - I'm saying the "one clip" data suggests an almost 100% advantage over mnk and it was tested by pro players themselves. I don't see where a strike pack even gets mentioned? It is the literal truth? I'm not here to spread lies or take sides, just saying it is stupid to put apples and oranges together and expect a fair outcome.
And to be clear on this:
"Again, if it's so dang strong, why don't you just use it too? Cause @reconzero and I are still looking for these magic controllers that just win the game for people who just started."
- It's not people who "just" got started, but rather how people can be this good this soon. Hal is a perfect example, where he dropped mnk that he worked his whole life to master yet won the algs while using controller instead to prove a point. This is also why you get people who play the game for 5 weeks who one clip people who have been playing for 5 months. Sure they got lucky, but should they, in this way? Do you get that lucky with a mouse that often? There is assistance here, beyond natural ability, it's just a fact.