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Melomatik
Seasoned Newcomer
18 days ago

When are you going to try to stop the cheaters?

I’ve been following the game since day one and playing actively since its third week. I don't know if the game used to make you more money back then, or if the revenue you're making now has made you care so little about the player base, but you are making worse decisions every single day and practically forcing real players to uninstall the game. It blows my mind how you can't manage to solve these issues with hundreds of engineers when even AI can detect and fix in-game problems nowadays.

 

You used to take action against cheaters, maybe ban a few people, or publicly expose them. Now, you care so little that these brain-rotted idiots using third-party devices don't even feel the need to hide their cheats anymore. What's even more frustrating is that they can openly brag across multiple platforms about how they’ve been dominating ranked matches for 3-4 years using these devices—ruining the game for others just to feed the disgusting ego monster in their underdeveloped brains and bodies—and just go on with their lives.

 

The worst part is, as a simple PC user, I can easily find thousands of examples of this with just a little research, yet you, working at one of the biggest game developers in the world, see absolutely no issue. Either that, or you are so blinded by the money you're making that you can't see your source of income rotting away because of these parasites.

 

As someone who has played and eventually moved on from many games over the years, this is the first time I am experiencing such a massive disappointment with a game. Unfortunately, the reason for my disappointment isn't that the game is getting boring; it's that the people making it are so incredibly careless. I'm not thanking any of you for making me hate playing video games.

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  • e1b2b41da38ee689's avatar
    e1b2b41da38ee689
    Seasoned Ace
    10 days ago

    Quite sure it will not make any difference to us mere mortals as above mentioned was mostly used by "legit hackers" aka your Imperialhals and streamers.

    Already back in the days was it season 9 or so when Jitter aim made it debut via mostly Lou (pro player) being the face of this campaign I said this is basically close to pure bs meaning YES you can do that, YES it negates recoil BUT I yet to see someone who can smoothly track a target while super tensing his arm to jitter it... as one requires muscles to be super tense and deliver numerous nerve impulses over short period of time while the other needs them to be relaxed and deliver smooth impulses...basically multitasking bs just at aiming level :) Like no freaking pro aimer talks about jitter aim like ever!

    Basically it is scam at most or exploit at best which I agree.

    And in most cases we saw that in form of scripts that made pro aim basically identical to what we see now with titan / xim users. Begs the question :) at least in my head.

    I also tried both recoil smoothing and jitter aim script back in the days (Ghub + a bit of brain made it really easy to make, not to pixel perfect extent but good enough), my damage went up by like 400 on AVERAGE per game and I played with it for like 2 weeks straight in ranked without any issues openly talking about it with my duo at the time acknowledging that I will stop using it as soon as I have definitive proof that it works on daily basis, which it did and I stopped.

    For us mortals we face dumb hackers aka your platinum stuck cheaters that will not bother getting just recoil script or something given now you can actually buy software cheats (not sure how long they work but still) for as little as 5$ / month from various vendors -> just need to google search for those or discord communities for Apex cheats, plenty to choose from and they all state to include both recoil smoothing and aimbot at the same time.

    So yeah my guess would be a difference for typical hardstuck Diamond will be <5% of positive effect but 95% of the games will still be decided by the fact "how soon I will run into blunt aimbotter and what will be situation at that time = 1v1 or potential to actually taking cheater down with help of other enemies, teammates".

    p.s. similar smoke and mirrors is tap strafing aka your typical videos of streamers showing how it is done and their input overlay showing 8-15 scroll wheel inputs almost instantly (as you know tap strafe window is 0.4 seconds = time where you need to do all the inputs for it to work) -> try it yourself and see if your mouse can even reach half of that as usually it is mechanically and software side limited...unless you use scripts that just do that for you with 1 ms delay.

  • Yesterday, Respawn announced that RC Filter (for controllers) and Jitter (for MnK) are now detectable, and players who use them are being banned.

    It'll be interesting to see if this impacts match quality.

    For those unfamiliar, these programs helped significantly reduce recoil.

    But what still worries me most is Titan and these other third-party devices. There's too much of it.

  • What was it seasons 22? when cheaters just took over and ragehacked and forced Respawn to admit there is a "slight" issue with cheaters after hacking ALGS lan event. I mean kudos to those cheaters developing stuff that puts you in whatever game you choose to or creates laser beam charge rifle etc. Respect for enginuity.

    -> 7 seasons later...I accept that in every lobby above plat 2 there will be at least a few cheaters, hopefully running into one another and dying or we able to 3rd party...otherwise "glad you aimtrained, I instead aimbotted you to shreds" :)

    Yeah this game has a combo of rotten community that turn to cheats, raw models that use cheats pretending to be good at the game and Respawn ... unable or unwilling to do anything about it anymore. Maybe Destroyer2009 can come back and solve the issue for them :)

  • Imagine being 71, so naturally sucking, but after many years finally playing almost average (1.03) but now getting immediately killed in nearly every game by sub-level 20 players. At this point, skill has little to do with winning in this game, it's about the quality of the cheat. I'm so frustrated, I can't tell you...

  • Totally agree.

    Even just a regular ranked grinder can spot cheaters like in literary every game above P2 these days, as you say people are not even trying to hide it / are able to play covering cheats.

    Yet Respawn keep providing those laughable data about infection rates that are like 10-fold lower than actual situation and "bunch up reports for ban waves" instead of removing people instantly.

    I reported and still report cheaters every time I face them in game using in game reporting, if they are super blunt and I was recording my game I go even further and submit to them the clip via EA web report form.
    Since May I have received in game notification of 18! players being penalized, quite sure most of them are because I reported people slurring in team chat.

    In the meantime other reports...well here is snippet of my e-mail:

    I have 27 pages of these "sorry we did nothing" :D

    It's the same thing as in Zeus (youtube) "experiment" where he shared discord link to ban command center and encouraged people to report cheaters -> Respawn disabled invite link / reporting function days later because of incoming volume (allegedly) :P

    They just gave up on this basically removing only blunt cheaters which if you search even youtube is exactly what cheat developers / sellers know and advise:

    • lose games time to time
    • don't enable headshot only aimbot
    • try to play some games without it
    • don't go crazy on kills, in ranked get positive RP and die / quit
    • etc.

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