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@RevMainPls please show my proof of both your "stated reality" and the "mostly inactive players" assertion statements.
There are 60 players in a match, lots have to die before points are earned, even placement points.
I see many players sporting silver and gold ranked badges. Clearly it is safe to assume that they are proud of earning their badges. Why do you strive to deminish their efforts?
@OldTreeCreeperif you really believe that 20% of the playerbase after more than a month were unable to get 1200 lp while trying then i dont know what to say lol
they only need to get top13 half of their games by simply afking and it will take them 480 games, and thats more than realistic to hit top 13 without doing anything...
Honestly them showing off silverbadges is just beeing proud on something everyone can get
Ofc they can be proud if they see it as an accomplishment but considering how the ranked system works its nothing to be proud of sry
But it is extremely subjective what people are proud off... i mean you can also be proud on driving an opel corsa, doesnt make it a hard goal to archive
- OldTreeCreeper4 years agoHero+
@RevMainPls you think 20% of players afk 480 games per split??? Why would someone do that, really????
A hard goal for some players might not be hard for you.
- 4 years ago@OldTreeCreeper That was an extreme example obviously...
It had the only purpose to proove the point that no matter what you will climb to silver as long as you play enough
Btw nearly 10% of that bronzeplayers are bronze 4, are you telling me you think they are unable to "grind" 300 lp in over a month? you seem to have a low opinion about humanity xD - 4 years ago
@KelRiever I get where you're coming from and I agree to a certain extent, but I think a player can be skillful enough to reach a certain rank, but lack the right mentality to actually do so.
Some people just lack incentive or patience to actually put their time Into ranked, I'm sure the stats wouldd look very different if this wasn't the case.
- hayhor4 years agoHero@OldTreeCreeper Tbf I play like a handful of ranked games a split so I end up bronze or silver even tho I can get to plat rather easily. And I think you get counted as a bronze if you don't play ranked at all. So for me the bronze level should be tossed aside.
- 4 years ago
@Cro_Pittt Yes, but that sort of head bang doesn't seem that obvious if you read the posts here on the forum. Apparently people don't advance to Platinum by actually killing people and winning games, they advance to Platinum by 'hiding', by 'being noobs', are 'bad players who don't know what they are doing' and basically didn't earn, in some way, their rank.
Which is nonsense, is my point.
You can't just go 'pick' a group of ranked players to eliminate from your stats. The only people eliminated from the stats are the people who don't play ranked. Some are good players, but I'd argue the vast majority of those who don't play ranked certainly aren't capable of playing in gold, platinum, or maybe even silver. So even if you play in Bronze, then you count...and if you don't play ranked, it only adds to the argument of those in higher ranks being even better than most players.
There's a lot of elitism that flies around here. I didn't say Diamond players weren't better than Platinum players, or even that a Platinum II player is better than a Plat IV (chances are they are far better, even in the same rank). The point is to dispel all those myths that get floated around, and to come up with a theory as to why a lot of Platinum players do play the way they do...and that is because of a flawed scoring system that encourages a particular kind of play at that level.
- damsonwhufndthis4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@KelRieverif I had the time, I could definetly get to Plat with 0 kills bro
and there is enough time, just not enough for a busy man
- 4 years ago
@damsonwhufndthis Yes, in theory, but that’s exactly the point. Maybe some, very few people waste their time getting there with no kills but it’s not realistic. And definitely ridiculous to presume most people in plat got there with 0 kills.
Even if they did, to presume you can do that with no skill is equally ridiculous. You need to know the game in order to do that. Which also begs the question if you know the game, are you really not killing people? You probably are.
- damsonwhufndthis4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@KelRieverthey probably are good enough to climb to gold and than rat through gold to plat
- 4 years ago
@KelRiever Mm i don't think so, it's just about being noobs at the game really (hiding or hot dropping are like two sides of the same coin). Oh and trust me a lot of players got to Plat only because they had a friend who carried them, of course they're not bronze players maybe, but without a great help they'd have reached gold at best. There's a significant difference between Plat and Gold and everyone can notice that, that's why tier demotion protection should be removed at least for Plat/Gold so maybe some players will start to play decently.
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