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@EREGDS well said. Correct, how you described yourself, is what I would consider "average" and why even average players can climb Plat. All it takes is some situational awareness, decent decision making, and hitting a few shots to climb to Diamond.
Personally, I consider a noob a level 100(ish) and below player, and a Vet someone at at 500.
If the argument is Plat players aren't noobs, thats probably correct. If the argument is that they are "average" I would argue they are well below average. And having a slightly more competitive atmosphere and RP buy-in per match sheds light on that fact.
@CocoaHyena Average isnโt an opinion, average is the middle by definition. So they arenโt noobs or average.
I get what you are saying but itโs really just supporting my point. If you are representing roughly 25% or less of the high end of the player base, your perspective can be demented if you call other players below you or bad. It doesnโt mean you are yourself a bad player at all. But itโs a wrong place to refer to the rest of the player base if you keep talking about it like it is established.
- 4 years ago@KelRiever sorry I didn't read all the posts in the discussion but I read your first post, if I may I would like to share some of my experience.
The first time I soloed to diamond in season 3 was when I was actually aiming at pred but I failed, then didn't bother with ranked for a few seasons then started again in seasons 8,9, and 10.
This season I didn't even want to play ranked but I will say it as a joke, I played ranked only on-demand, which means I play ranked when my friends wanted me to be with them and yesterday I hit diamond again.
What I learned from all of that, gold-ranked is a piece of cake for everyone with 1 and above KDR and it can be played like playing PUBS.
plat 4 and above you need to start focusing, no more hot drops, no more rushing a team without making sure that it's 100% winnable, no more loot as you go and you need to hit your shots.
from plat to diamond is a doable solo queue but it's more demanding in terms of time and energy but it's a lot ....a lot easier with a team and but also you need a team that you sync with.
I used to run with two guys who sorry to say I couldn't keep going with them (none of the forum members).
Once you reach diamond then it's a different universe, it requires a different mentality, skills, more energy and time.
Your margin of mistake forgiveness gets almost to 0, one mistake and itโs all over.
Currently, I run with two masters in PUBS, and a lot of times they really surprise when they win a fight which I find it to be unwinnable from my point of view but they still manage to do it.
Their movement is better, smoother, more precise, and calculated.
And their aim is better, and no matter how fancy the movement is if the aim is trash then it's a waste of energy.
I got another friend who I call ACEU 2.0 because of his movement especially on zip lines but unfortunately, when it comes to hitting shots he is a meh and it is the reason why he loses most of his fights.
Team combination is very important as well; as an example.....ranked in storm point you MUST have a valkery in the team.
You cannot run around with random legends whose abilities are not related to each other and expect to win the match unless you get lucky.
Regarding the distribution of player base ranks, I have no idea about it but after the removal of old dive trails from previous seasons, I noticed a huge decrease in diamond, master and pred trails.
Previously I used to feel that everyone got to diamond whenever I drop from the ship as when I look at the sky I see trails everywhere but now I barely see 10 or 15 tops that's my only observation regarding this
So in short, once you hit plat you need to take it easy, slowly, and only take calculated action and hit your shots and lastly running with a team is way better and easier.
๐ - 4 years ago
Adding to what @maximas1986 said - KDR in this game is in my opinion not the best variable, display of the skill, given how kill is being awarded:
- on one spectrum side you have a 1 damage 1 kill
- on the other you have all the damage in the world and kill being snatched by teammates or 3rd party because you were healing, knocked or shot dead in the process
Also, I for example never make a nub mistake that really ticks my nerves - finishing an enemy during an ongoing battle (especially love those who try to go through blue and higher knock-down shields straight on) given there is no need for armor swap. From KDR perspective finishing people is a must, from winning a game more often than not it is a crucial mistake that makes say 3 vs 2 into 2v2 or even worse 2v2 into 1v2 against you.
E.g. my KDR currently is at 0.6 and I am competitive in Diamond lobbies - pair me up with decent teammates (that know the basics, win say 1 out of 3 1v1s, nothing major) and I can go well into the Diamond territory.
The rest I totally agree especially the part about hitting shots - many people will reference Aceu and other pros especially in arguments is aim assist superior, overpowering, etc. And no matter the outcome of the discussion you will see bot like movement controller players just erasing your wall jumping super sliding gliding flying parkour master out of the lobbies time and time again ๐ The same goes with pros - do you often see them outsmart their opponents or do you see some ridiculous 100+m frying with an automatic weapon or 3 shots from wingmen in a row? I personally see mostly the latter, I forgot when I saw something I would go "wow" about and remember to practice that move or tactics.
Apex win = use cover, utilize high ground, bait people, and HIT YOUR SHOTS.
- CroL0co4 years agoNew Veteran
I play exclusively solo ranked and this season is by far the worse when it comes to matchmaking. In p1 90% of my squad mates were p4 or lower, that's not how it's supposed to work. And on top of that the p4 player just brainlessly hot drop because they don't care, they know that they can't get advance from p4, because they're basically gold players so they ruin the games for others who try to rank up.
I play every season, every split and I really don't understand what they did this time, but it's an absolute abomination. - 4 years ago@CroL0co now you see that rank boosting marketing works and people started to spend money not only on skins but also on account boosting ๐
100 million player base, 99 million kids who don't care about gameplay, rather troll someone.
p.s. 2 days ago had a game on D4 level where my D4 friends took one trident each and were racing around me across all map before we got killed - couldn't escape them even being Octane and using gravity cannons etc. Fun times.
Another dude from discord joined to disconnect at the beginning of the match saying "ha ha ha I dropped a game for you, enjoy minuses"... community of Apex. - CroL0co4 years agoNew Veteran
@EREGDS That's why we need tier drop in ranked, so that you can drop from Diamond to Plat etc. That way the "league 4 guys", no matter what tier they are, wouldn't troll the games as much. Now they know that they can't get any higher and on the other side the ranked system is keeping them in current tier so they can do whatever they want.
- 4 years ago
I truly believe rank protection is a really bad feature to the rank system and that we have to suffer it becaus they have no better way of solving low player count for ranked matchmaking.
I wish there were a way to remove it and keep the game healthy (enough matches being made Diamond lobbies+) but I truly doubt it, I hope they dare to "test" it one season or maybe for just 1 split now with crossplay in effect.
It would strike a heavy blow to boosting services, sure you can pay to boost to Diamond or Masters to get the badge but you would not be able to play the lobbies for long if you can get dropped out of ranks. That is a win win win becaus it would be a less attractive deal.
Solo players who always solo to a certain rank would not suffer much from having rank protection removed, they would always make progress towards their level of skill and hopefully more people would play ranked as ranked is intended, play to win.
Side note:
I also strongly recommend making badges to show in which game mode/rank they got earned, to remove some of the attraction to having people buying badge boosts.
20 Bomb gained in D+ lobbies would speak a great deal more about how good the player actually is, now we are flooded with the highly sought after badges and maybe 1 out of 10 actually play like they earned it. Having them show where you gained them might drop sales on their boosting services.
You could dissect player stats more to put some preassure on alot of stat farming aswell, like it is only interesting for other players to see how many kills you have in your highest rank gained etc.
- 4 years ago
@CroL0co/ @Thorleifs yeah, I don't get why there is such thing as rank protection... matchmaking - well what's the point of having quick bad games one after another vs waiting 20 min for one you know will be good?
Somehow EA seems to prioritize cry baby needs over quality - nubs who got boosted want to troll P+ level lobbies or somehow dream to belong there after being boosted enough times (yeah like 100 maybe), Preds cry about waiting time so they get fed "nub" Diamond randoms vs set Pred squads... I guess we - people who are fed and fed up with what is going on - are just indeed minority โน๏ธ
@Thorleifsbadges :D I removed them all, removed the trail, and never care to read what badges do I get. Even if I make it to Masters I would stick with no badge and trail for it either. This system of mindf#% and badges is just insane and creates so many game experience issues :/
- 4 years ago
Tier protection does make issues for some as it allows noobs to be stuck in a rank and puts them on good player's team. However a GOOD player will IGL or just learn to conform to the bad teammate to make the most out of it. My promotion game into masters was a P2 and a hardstuck D4 teammates and we did very well tbh.
- pandareno19994 years agoHero+
@IAvoxI This is an excellent reply. My playing buddy solo-q'd a smurf account to Masters this split on PS5, his first time taking ranked at all seriously. I asked him about a lot of the typical complaints one hears about solo queuing ranked. He said he experienced very few of them - primarily because he used his mic from before the match started. He said that overwhelmingly, his team mates were willing to listen to his callouts due to his establishing a rapport and leading if necessary. I realize that not everyone has a personality which can glue randoms together, but it sure worked for him. Very few of his games involved him ratting by himself for placement.
- 4 years ago
Yep most teammates are decent at the game and like I discussed with my friend. The higher rank you get in the game is not necessarily a SKILL gap from lower ranks. It's a MENTAL thing. You have to just be able to make decisions extremely quickly and be aware of everything. That's like I used to play Rocket League and there are some insane mechanics that allow you to do some nutty trick shots that are unpredictable. When I really grinded that game I was Grand Champ (highest rank at that time) and my mechanics were nothing compared to some of my friends that were like platinum/diamond area. I had good ball control ground or air but not much more than that. No ceiling shots and no flip resets. The difference was I knew when and when not to do certain things and they just didn't.
- 3 years ago
Iโm noob and I play at Platinum rank. Not because I want. I wanted to start my ranked matches with 0 rank - like rookie or something similar - and play against players being on my level. The game for some reason decided to give me Platinum rank and now I am just annoying for other players.
- EA_Mako3 years ago
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