Edited by CMAlright I have never felt the need to delve into the EA forums, been through bf 3, 4, and hard line, never felt the urge to get a message across. The Wingman, is broken. Accurate, shoots fast, shoots FAR, and has zero recoil because duh revolver? not to mention the insta-death attachment (skull piercer), available more than weapons. Wingman only bois run rampant hitting every single shot and downing people mid range faster than ARs, and close range faster than shotguns. The Peacekeeper, is just an all round mess. Shoot someone point blank in the chest and get 3 damage one time, and 110 the next on an identical shot. make it consistent! even if its only 80 damage! I shouldn't be getting spammed with a wingman close range and losing every fight whilst having a kitted peacekeeper. running into easy win situations and just getting spammed by the wingman is frustrating enough to make people stop playing, even shroud's touched upon how stupid it is. I shouldn't want to run and hide like a Kraber is breathing down my neck every time a wingman gets sprayed my way, and 12 shots? lmao

I wouldn't say Wingman is OP - it's damage is definitely fine, but it definitely needs some recoil - it's too easy to use as it is now at any range at max fire rate. It's also completely weird and unnatural recoil pattern - jump to 2nd bullet and then shoot pretty much one hole for 11 shots. It should just keep going the same as between 1st and 2nd shots, maybe even with some inconsistency.And no, that non-existent recoil is not just for slow-tapping, it's at max fire rate (a bit over 3 shots/sec). Actually, slow-tapping the Wingman would result in worse performance, since you would keep resetting the pattern and sometimes may hit that 1->2 bullet jump. Which is actually doubly awkward.

after each shot, the crosshair lays where it was before, just before you can take your next shot. its not recoil to a disadvantage unless it actually effects your next shot, which it doesn't.absolutely, the peace keeper just baffles me, have moments where its amazing then suddenly its like the mozam.the wingman for what it is, how common it is, and how much damage it does... is too good. put it in drops or some *!

@Toxi_Kunn wrote:after each shot, the crosshair lays where it was before, just before you can take your next shot. its not recoil to a disadvantage unless it actually effects your next shot, which it doesn't.That's not the recoil, that's the recovery after the recoil, and all of the pistols have that. If you rapidly should the Wingman, it still has recoil. If you pause for half a second, and shoot once a second, it may seem like it doesn't, but it does.

@xKR0N1C wrote:Your obviously having an issue with your own gameplay, peacekeeper is very inconsistent on moving targets and I see where your trying to go with the wingman but strafing is a very useful tactic. Dont cry nerf because that's what's beating you or if you do cry nerf actually come up with a well thought out balance point. In my opinion the headshot damage could be lowered to 90 with a skull piercer equipped body dmg should be like 35, 2 tapping people to the head is too rewarding of good aim but that's just it, you have to hit your shots and nerfing the skill cap never works for games just look at fortnite's skill cap nerfs and balances rather than easy patches. 3 headshots is rewarding good aim but keeping the gun useable. Just my opinion.Thank you for your post. It’s so invaluable getting advice from people reliant on an OP weapon but unwilling to say the words.... everyone who plays this game including streamers know how OP it is. It will be nerfed one way or another so live with it and stop posting as if strategy and tactics override how wingman makes the game 10x easier.

Miss the part that says nearly? Or..?Yea, I play plenty thanks 😂😂 it's plenty accurate long range I have 300m kills with the thing, it's absurd. It doesn't have a wide fire pattern at all, you just need practice like the rest of the sweats in the game. I can go all day getting the odd death from everything else. But ring squad wiped in two seconds by one dude and his wingman is another story.This is why I don't come by the forums often, I address a problem that many others share with one or two particular guns and you have people jump in with 3 hours in the game judging the sincerity of your comments, but not actually reading them, apparently.

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BeerWolf1984
7 years ago
Wingman: Remove the Clip capacity upgrade... so less shots, slower reload. And give it a slower rate of fire. Leave damage as is.
Peacekeeper: Lower body damage from 10 to 9, and headshot damage from 15 to 13, per pellet (11). . Slower reload time. "~~Bolt~~": Instead of faster shooting, have it reduce spread of shots
xSc_xUnReaLx
7 years ago
Guy complains about the wingman then states his favorite gun is the r99 which literally has the lowest ttk ingame. Simple fix to the wingman is to remove the extend man attachment from the gun so it cannot spam fire down people. Then you actually have to land shots.
Toxi_Kunn
7 years ago
Sure, there's always something that's going to be highest, happens to be an SMG and that's not surprising. All my post is saying a wingman shouldn't do what it does. I shouldn't be getting in sniper battles with it.
Psyrecx
7 years ago
Well, either learn to dodge, or come better equipped to a 'sniper battle'.
Psyrecx
7 years ago
@Toxi_Kunn wrote:
Seeing you started chiming into this thread with videos on how using the wingman incorrectly is bad, and ignoring points being made and simply saying everyone else was wrong "I MaDE a ViDeo"
Keep it up, you make my day interesting. I rarely get to stumble across someone as single minded as you, and in every comment section at that.
Lets see, lets quote your initial post... "The Wingman, is broken as all ****. Accurate as a MF, shoots fast, shoots FAR, and has zero recoil because duh revolver? "

First video proved that to be completely incorrect. It does have recoil. Second video showed that it even had it in ADS. Because you thought that maybe you could look at any minimal hope that you might be correct, and wouldn't admit you were absolutely wrong. And then the video proved that, and now look at you...

Yes, I have video evidence proving your claims completely incorrect. Two in fact. It's so ironic that you would call someone else 'single minded'. Pot:Kettle.

I'm fact minded. Like I said a while ago, I test things before I make claims about them. Yet another thing that could not be said of you...
Toxi_Kunn
7 years ago
@Psyrecx wrote:
@Toxi_Kunn wrote:
Seeing you started chiming into this thread with videos on how using the wingman incorrectly is bad, and ignoring points being made and simply saying everyone else was wrong "I MaDE a ViDeo"
Keep it up, you make my day interesting. I rarely get to stumble across someone as single minded as you, and in every comment section at that.
Lets see, lets quote your initial post... "The Wingman, is broken as all ****. Accurate as a MF, shoots fast, shoots FAR, and has zero recoil because duh revolver? "

First video proved that to be completely incorrect. It does have recoil. Second video showed that it even had it in ADS. Because you thought that maybe you could look at any minimal hope that you might be correct, and wouldn't admit you were absolutely wrong. And then the video proved that, and now look at you...

Yes, I have video evidence proving your claims completely incorrect. Two in fact. It's so ironic that you would call someone else 'single minded'. Pot:Kettle.

I'm fact minded. Like I said a while ago, I test things before I make claims about them. Yet another thing that could not be said of you...
Fact minded 🤣😂 buddy I watched your video, there is in fact no recoil, only bullet spread as you aren't ADS. Maybe when you play more video games you will learn how that works 🙂 you'll get there.
Second video (which I'm somehow missing said link for) you have somehow become so bad at the game, you now have recoil on a gun that BETWEEN shots ONLY, it has recoil. You realize what that means right? It means your next shot, by the time you are allowed to shoot again, your cross hair is in the same spot you started. If you still haven't seemed to figure that out I don't quite know what else to do here. Play the game more.
How about I make some videos, as you're very clearly incompetent of taking a point, you'd much rather run from thread to thread being a warrior among warriors. Back in a biiiiiit 🙃
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7 years ago
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