Xims on console
People on console using keyboard and mouse need to be addressed, this is remotely the same problem as aim bots on pc.
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@DankToliet Hello sir, it seems you do not understand how a K&M gives a much greater advantage on console vs those using a controller.
If you'd like, I can introduce you to Rainbows Diamond / Plat league and you can see how using a mouse can and is a game changer.
If you'd like, I can introduce you to Rainbows Diamond / Plat league and you can see how using a mouse can and is a game changer.
@iBlockHead I would just like to see how you actually determine someone is using one when they kill you? Surely it can't be a controller user that's just better right?
@DankTolietWatch enough footage of the two different types and you build up a fairly good sense of which is which.
I have to say though the "playing on a level playing field" argument is dead and gone, and it's nothing to do with Xim/Chronus. 3p controllers with extra buttons, paddles etc, playing on different monitors/tvs , even having an xbox one X instead of a normal one - these are things all confer an unfair advantage.
The days of consoles being all the same hardware and everyone on a level playing field have been over for a long time. This isn't an argument against Xim. If I use the level playing field logic : if some guy goes out and spends 2-300 bucks on a better controller than mine, I'd be well within reason to go out and spend the same money on a Xim, keyboard and mouse.
@Anlbrd wrote:@DankToliet
I have to say though the "playing on a level playing field" argument is dead and gone, and it's nothing to do with Xim/Chronus. 3p controllers with extra buttons, paddles etc, playing on different monitors/tvs , even having an xbox one X instead of a normal one - these are things all confer an unfair advantage.This is most true, Elite/Scuf/Wolverine/monitor/Astros/Google Fiber/ are much more common anyways. Yet none of those including the XIM bypass any official Xbox Terms of Service. Respawn not "condoning"is not a punishable offense.
@Anlbrd wrote:@DankTolietWatch enough footage of the two different types and you build up a fairly good sense of which is which.
I have to say though the "playing on a level playing field" argument is dead and gone, and it's nothing to do with Xim/Chronus. 3p controllers with extra buttons, paddles etc, playing on different monitors/tvs , even having an xbox one X instead of a normal one - these are things all confer an unfair advantage.
The days of consoles being all the same hardware and everyone on a level playing field have been over for a long time. This isn't an argument against Xim. If I use the level playing field logic : if some guy goes out and spends 2-300 bucks on a better controller than mine, I'd be well within reason to go out and spend the same money on a Xim, keyboard and mouse.Except that with a different TV, or even a more expensive (and imo useless anyway) controller you cannot perform acts that are completely impossible with a ds4. And you can with a xim.
Using a better TV or a controller with paddles is like buying an 1000 dollar bicycle to race your friend on a huffy. Yes, it's lighter, maybe has a little less rolling resistance, and more gears...but you still won't beat your friend that's been going cycling every weekend.
A xim is like bringing a moped.
Microsoft has developed a controller for people with disabilities to use, its cheaper than a XIM/keyboard/mouse set up and a lot more useful if you have a disability...
@DankTolietit can but when you see fluid moments after watching and using one yourself, ya can pretty much tell when someone uses a controller or not.
EDIT
Part of me now feels like you use one yourself and you are trying to reason with your inner self in order to not feel like a scum for using it. In which case, I hope it breaks
- @iBlockHead So someone who's been using an analog stick for years and can control it better than you instantly means they're using a m&k?
Part of me feels you're one of the many that can't accept others are better than them and look for ANY excuse.The real answer by now is for Xbox to start including their own native emulator that does the Xims job only better and stop giving 3p products a market. At least if xbox did this then there'd be fewer people buying the other ancillaries and then just out of curiosity testing recoil reduction scripts etc. I sincerely think that a lot of people who wind up using scripts and macros to get an advantage start by just wanting to use K&M to see what the fuss is all about.
[edit] - I really don't think the macros and scripts etc are a big issue from what I've experienced so far. It gives a good player a very small improvement and gives a terrible player a bigger improvement. Most seem to be quality of life things that I would love if I could do them on my controller (1 button to take out a grenade, throw it and then bring out your weapon again).
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