Xims on console
People on console using keyboard and mouse need to be addressed, this is remotely the same problem as aim bots on pc.
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@iBlockHead I would just like to see how you actually determine someone is using one when they kill you? Surely it can't be a controller user that's just better right?
@DankTolietit can but when you see fluid moments after watching and using one yourself, ya can pretty much tell when someone uses a controller or not.
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Part of me now feels like you use one yourself and you are trying to reason with your inner self in order to not feel like a scum for using it. In which case, I hope it breaks
- @iBlockHead So someone who's been using an analog stick for years and can control it better than you instantly means they're using a m&k?
Part of me feels you're one of the many that can't accept others are better than them and look for ANY excuse.The real answer by now is for Xbox to start including their own native emulator that does the Xims job only better and stop giving 3p products a market. At least if xbox did this then there'd be fewer people buying the other ancillaries and then just out of curiosity testing recoil reduction scripts etc. I sincerely think that a lot of people who wind up using scripts and macros to get an advantage start by just wanting to use K&M to see what the fuss is all about.
[edit] - I really don't think the macros and scripts etc are a big issue from what I've experienced so far. It gives a good player a very small improvement and gives a terrible player a bigger improvement. Most seem to be quality of life things that I would love if I could do them on my controller (1 button to take out a grenade, throw it and then bring out your weapon again).
- @Anlbrd AND it would make it easier to know which players are using these and can put them in lobbies with others who are using K&M as well.
- @DankToliet I like how you complete ignore anything I have said lmao
I see now that you're just a talking mule. Have a good life bud.
@DankToliet wrote:
@iBlockHeadSo someone who's been using an analog stick for years and can control it better than you instantly means they're using a m&k?
Part of me feels you're one of the many that can't accept others are better than them and look for ANY excuse.You're missing the point. If Respawn flat out ban/unsupport Xim, then there is no discussion to be had. They have said they do not condone it and that they see it as an advantage.
I've played with amazing pad users, and I KNOW they play pad. It can be done, but I also know players who have used K&M and their movement, and rotation of aim along with accuracy is something they (personally) could not do on pad. So taking out XIM, would actually widen the skill gap. The best pad players would then hold a legit "skill" advantage. It would also be one less excuse for bad players to use, so it's a win win?
I use a normal DS4, but I can use that in the same way as a scuff. All the scuff is doing is moving buttons for convenience, but you can still play like that with a standard pad with practice (or claw). I can jumpshot, slide shot with a normal pad just fine.
Despite all the mental gymnastics, anybody using XIM is looking for an advantage imo.
- @Silz616 You're correct in saying anyone using a XiM is looking for an advantage. That doesn't mean it's an advantage over other players. If you have years of experience and are just more comfortable using a m&k you would be at a disadvantage using a controller.
So, now that I agree with you. Let's see if you can agree with a FACT that many people just ignore. Because you seem like a reasonable guy. Regarding the Xim and Xim alone, not Keymander/Cronus/Hori/any other emulator. But you are aware that XIM simply translates all and only all movement and control from the controller its plugged into to other devices (I know people who play with a PS Move controller) meaning everything you can do in game with a m&k you can do with a controller.
That's why the XIM doesn't violate any Xbox or PSN Terms of Service, its restricted and governed by the controller it's plugged into and you're not gaining any "extra" stats or sensitivity, you're just mapping your controls and movement to another device.
Incoming that one and only one time Fortnite temporarily banned a "suspected" m&k user, yet you can plug one in today and never be punished. People stream all day on Twitch playing a wide variety of games with their IDs clearly visible and they don't get banned.
It'll never be detected without inconsequentially banning players using other 2nd & 3rd party devices.
