There should be an automatic harsh penalty for the Jumpmaster who decides to do the really hot drops and then also immediately DC's right after being knocked without even giving their squadmates a chance. Like the 10 minute unable to join a match penalty. Maybe even an account ban after a dozen times (with a warning getting close, like the last 3).

@Gator762FMJ It is shocking how many people refuse to just queue solo.

@Lord_Scorpion34"Obviously this is not an option in ranked"That depends entirely on the mindset of the player. If you believe that rank is a ladder that must be climbed to the highest possible rung, then ratting solo will not fulfill your dreams of diamond two, or wherever. But if you believe that rank is a description of where you are as a player (and largely of where matchmaking is) then rank is just a number and the benefit of playing ranked is (in theory) tighter matchmaking and a higher likelihood of squadmates and enemies who adhere more closely to the meta.Rank is a game that developers play with people who crave acceptance. And a game players play with each other because their ultimate motivation is a paralyzing fear that their natural endowment is inferior to the next guy's. Free yourself of that mindset and suddenly ranked gameplay becomes just gameplay. Nothing to chase. Nothing to prove. Just another match like any other. Save your anxiety for things in life that really matter, like work, family, and purpose.

@XHelperZBut this isn't the game for that. If constant shooting and respawning is your thing, play COD.Doing so might enhance their gameplay, but it screws their squadmate's games. It's a TEAM game, not a solo game. Asking them to chill for 15-30 seconds isn't too much.ETA: If they want to play like that, there's also the option to not fill the squad in the lobby. There just isn't a valid excuse for it.

@Gator762FMJ"if you're checking the box to fill Squadmates, you're consenting to play as a squad."If you're checking the box to fill squadmates it's because you're not willing to wait 10 minutes for a match.And careful with the whole "consenting to play as a squad" thing. That means different things to different people and you might easily find yourself the object of someone else's ire for a failure to imagine the game as they imagine it.I would be the poster boy for this. As an experienced player who solo queues and most commonly is matched with seven year-old children who have 50 matches under their belt and the youthful assurance that they know everything there is to know about the game... I'm sure I could make a very legitimate case against each and every one of them for "not playing as a team," "for engaging in foolish, high-risk behavior," "for recklessly endangering themselves and their squadmates," and just generally "for not playing properly (meaning, the way I play)." Should I advocate for getting them all banned? Should they all sit a corner for ten minutes to think about what they did? I don't think so. They should get on with their lives. As should we all. With our casual, un-ranked, free-to-play game."10 minute ban from matches would seriously curtail the practice." Maybe, maybe not. It might just cause them to stay and screw with you in other ways out of spite. It might cause them to tiktok for 10 minutes and then repeat. It might cause the game to lose half its population. Let's face it: quitters buy things in the store just like everyone else.And finally: if your jumpmaster chooses an LZ that you know is just plain dumb then you should break off. Period. Stop enabling that kind of stupidity. Whether they quit when downed is beside the point. Every time experienced teammates go along with a bad jumpmaster they send him the message that what he's doing is okay. And it isn't.

@reconzero wrote:@Gator762FMJ"if you're checking the box to fill Squadmates, you're consenting to play as a squad."If you're checking the box to fill squadmates it's because you're not willing to wait 10 minutes for a match.And careful with the whole "consenting to play as a squad" thing. That means different things to different people and you might easily find yourself the object of someone else's ire for a failure to imagine the game as they imagine it.Yeah, the matchmaking complaint that @Gator762FMJ has comes from the same root cause as you and I have noted in the past - the Matchmaking doesn't consider preferred play style at all. And I assume it never will because of they way they gather and sort matchmaking data surely doesn't factor in a desire to play it slow and careful vs W-Key Leroy Jenkins plays.The solution to this issue, as noted, would be for each account to have a screen were they can fill out matchmaking preferences. It would have questions like,'Hot Drop'?Aggressive?Stealthy?Careful?Long Range engagementsMid Range engagementsShort Range engagementsLoot then Fight?Prefer Kills over Placement?And each would have a yes/no setting you could toggle. Then you can leave it, or change it up here and there based on what you are looking for.Then, the matchmaking would, also considering your SBMM stats, consider these answers to try to squad you up with like minded players.If they actually did this, I might consider coming back.

YOU pick the hot drop, YOU get penalized for immediately DC'ing after the knock

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Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Unitee01 "Yeah, I think there will come a time, and I think it's pretty close, where extraction/pvpve would become the new thing."
Titanfall 2
That game is still strong, why would they take players away from that and put them here? It's one of their own games.
You're talking about, or similar to, Attrition and Bounty Hunt from Titanfall 2. Maybe a few other Gamemodes as well.
PirataLeoparda
3 years ago
@Gator762FMJ +10000000000000 thumbs ups
PirataLeoparda
3 years ago
@Unitee01 very true!
Unitee01
3 years ago
@Zulkiers No I wasn't referring to Apex. I'm talking about the battle royale genre. It's been predicted that it's past it's prime and that we are likely to see extraction type shooters like Tarkov for example become more popular as the br genre declines.
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Unitee01 Ah, ok. Then they could get overloaded for Titanfall 2. That'll be fun.
Guess they'd better start marketing it again. The store tab within it is dead at the moment.
sp4c3m4n35
3 years ago
I hate the hot droppers, i play because i want to win fair enough i cannot win every game but dropping into a hot zone because they watch the streamers do it then leaving straight away i do not understand it, it starting to ruin the game they drop in get a kill maybe 2 then get knocked down and leave because they run off on their own expecting everyone else to follow them not thinking that other teams are ambushing the other players and working together, so i agree EA should start penalising players who hot drop and leave straight away, whats the point of being able to respawn players either by grabbing their banners or crafting banners when they keep leaving i've won a few games by respawning in or respawning others but over the last year or so the hot droppers have been getting worse without consequences so they keep doing it EA need to sort it out.
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
What should happen:
Leave before character selection, making team a man down - auto reported by AI to EA, 15 minute penalty
Leave midmatch - wait for others to leave as well, if full squad leaves then no penalty, if any stay then 5-10 minute penalty
Should also have a forgiveness thing sent to active players, and if they forgive then no penalty - used for when a person has to leave and gives a reason, and the players accept said reason, such as parent wants them off or they had to go to work. They should also type the reason in chat in case someone didn't hear them or devs look over the incident.
Leave while downed: 5 minute penalty
Leave while banner claimable: 2 minute penalty
Leave while banner being crafted or claimed: 5 minute penalty
Leave while respawning: 5-10 minute penalty
Leave while support (or anyone) can craft banner, expired: 2 minute penalty
No replicators in ring to craft: dev decision, probably remain no penalty
No respawn beacon in ring: dev decision, probably remain no penalty
Ally has MRB, but no respawn beacon in ring: A) show ally's MRB to spectating allies, B) since they can now see that ally has MRB penalize for leaving while claimed
May also occur if ally can see an MRB on the field or in a deathbox they are looting, for deathbox loot allow the spectating ally to see them looting the deathbox and claiming the MRB
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
Then again this post is about hotdrops, not quitters.
So...
As for hotdroppers, people should have a vote system for hotdrop, middrop, or latedrop. The later drop takes priority. Absentee votes / non-votes don't count. If only one vote is cast and it's hotdrop, the jumpmaster can drop them immediately. Middrop is wait 1/3rd of the path and drop in the later 2/3rds of the path. Late drop is wait 2/3rds of the path, jump in the last 1/3rd or the path.
The vote should occur after character selection, and persist through jump for in case someone arrives late or doesn't decide until they see what the map and path are, so that they can still permit or prohibit hotdrop.
I tend to latedrop, but sometimes I'll hotdrop when no one else heads where I'm heading, such as to trials on Worlds Edge. But, if we start right over trials, I might latedrop over The Maude instead. Other maps I tend to latedrop. This line has nothing to do with it so I will just strike it through, but leave it in case others wish to see my POV.

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