Start listening to your players. Pubs is completely broken. You're allowing preds to take the whole map of low KD players for what? Their streams bringing you attention? Is that all you guys care about? Every single game had been filled with masters and preds who start as champion, kill basically the whole lobby, and end as the champions. The fact that this has been a day 1 issue just proves that you guys don't care to fix what is broken if it doesn't profit you financially. Pred, 20 bomb, 4k badge players. All you see in the feed is them dropping everyone in the game.. and then they find you. You don't even get a chance to play. Fix your lobbies.

@Axs5626Sxa5001 I don't think he has 57 other preds. One team seems to find their way into his lobby and wipes it out. Ranked is a good idea as an option but with the way deranking and smurfs work it isn't much better.I will say this though- Having one super team in a lobby is better than having 20 lol

One team of preds/masters on mics and coordinated is more than enough to wipe out the lobby.

@dl45ohy5ebav I feel your pain. Apex's SBMM is complete trash and Respawn has no plans on changing it. Even if they did, they wouldn't tell anybody about it because they are afraid of people exploiting that knowledge and they have zero interest in policing it. Just look at the state of cheating in this game as your proof.

@Axs5626Sxa5001Ranked or PUBS, it doesn't matter, I've been playing since Season 1, with 2600 hours in the game.75%-90% of the game, I am Ranked with players below my stats, so 10% to 25%, I only play with some equal Skill Ranged Players.Match Making isn't what's ruining this game either, it's the cheaters with Aimbots, Wallhacks, PSilent, modded controllers and strike packs.Cross Play and Controllers on PC need to be removed, so we only play on the PC with PC players on keyboard and mouse!

@dl45ohy5ebav The topic is brought up frequently here.My advice to players in your skill range is to exclusively play ranked. Your lobby will not be 57 other Preds in ranked, as it does a better job of keeping like-skilled players together.And hypothetically, if your stance is: “I don’t ever want to encounter a player better than me”, then I suggest you avoid multi-player games entirely.

Youre ruining casual gamers experience.

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Axs5626Sxa5001
4 years ago
@dl45ohy5ebav The topic is brought up frequently here.

My advice to players in your skill range is to exclusively play ranked. Your lobby will not be 57 other Preds in ranked, as it does a better job of keeping like-skilled players together.

And hypothetically, if your stance is: “I don’t ever want to encounter a player better than me”, then I suggest you avoid multi-player games entirely.
hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 I don't think he has 57 other preds. One team seems to find their way into his lobby and wipes it out. Ranked is a good idea as an option but with the way deranking and smurfs work it isn't much better.

I will say this though- Having one super team in a lobby is better than having 20 lol
Axs5626Sxa5001
4 years ago
@hayhorIdk. I’m losing patience trying to explain to people that having 3 preds in a lobby feels different than having 40. You know this. Even if you’re highly skilled these lobbies can feel absolutely Impossible. I gotta be honest. I would rather be a slightly under average player with one pred team in my lobby, than be a Masters level player with all other Masters and Preds. The game just plays totally different when you can’t make a single mistake.
PsyhiX69
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
One team of preds/masters on mics and coordinated is more than enough to wipe out the lobby.
HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@dl45ohy5ebav I feel your pain. Apex's SBMM is complete trash and Respawn has no plans on changing it. Even if they did, they wouldn't tell anybody about it because they are afraid of people exploiting that knowledge and they have zero interest in policing it. Just look at the state of cheating in this game as your proof.
SILVERisSORRY
4 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 forcing us casuals to play ranked is NOT the answer, Ranked is boring as hell, you are stuck playing the same map over and over and over and over..... No thank you.

Respawn needs to get their act together and take care of all the cheaters, smurfs, and lag issues.
Axs5626Sxa5001
4 years ago
@SILVERisSORRY But you want a mode that exclusively pits you against your equal. Ranked does this better than pubs.

Are you suggesting that pubs play exactly like ranked? You realize this produces equal outcomes right? You want equal outcomes?
Helkath-Hazzuri
4 years ago
That's not necessarily true though. As a diamond player the first week of the split, I actually gain points when my teammates and opponents are all diamond / master / pred players than I do later in the season (in diamond) when my teammates are all platinum players. That's because higher level players know HOW to play the game and don't make many "mistakes" as you're talking about. If I'm in a pub and I get on a team with two absolutely terrible players, and there is a single master's 3-stack... I'm dead, no matter how hard I play my butt off. My two teammates are a liability.

The mistake is solo queing. It's a team game, and solo queuing puts you at an extreme disadvantage. I would rather be a master's with other master's and preds. Conceptually, it's also more rewarding to fight people who are your same skill level. Maybe you get lucky and kill a pred but that's going to happen 1 time out of 1000. You don't learn anything from that. You learn from being matched with similar skill levels... that's why every sport in the history of modern humanity groups people into skill classes, like football, baseball, road racing.... pretty much anything. You'll never play a game where an NFL player gets groups with a person who plays pick up football in the park (unless it was personally agreed upon by both ppl). This game is forcing NFL level players to play in lobbies with park players because the skill gap is too large to find games for players with a 1.25 k/d. If you have any positive K/D then it thinks you belong playing against master's players.
HogynDrwg
4 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001I have been doing this since last few weeks of last season, just playing ranked. I've not played much this season though tbh but I'm currently silver 1 and all through from bronze, the issue i have had is that you still get put against players that have masters and diamond badges (i mean like lots of them) on their character banners. I understand that they can drop down from not playing but it does make ranked just as frustrating 🤪
xpl0its
4 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001

Ranked or PUBS, it doesn't matter, I've been playing since Season 1, with 2600 hours in the game.

75%-90% of the game, I am Ranked with players below my stats, so 10% to 25%, I only play with some equal Skill Ranged Players.
Match Making isn't what's ruining this game either, it's the cheaters with Aimbots, Wallhacks, PSilent, modded controllers and strike packs.
Cross Play and Controllers on PC need to be removed, so we only play on the PC with PC players on keyboard and mouse!