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foff667
New Ace
4 years ago

4.0 ain't it

I think I'm done for a while again.  4.0 was nice and all with lots of bug fixes but the game simply has too many core issues to make it fun.  Played a bunch of conquest today, several different modes & maps and its still a running simulator and on top of that the air vehicles are just causing havoc out there.  Used to be a rock paper scissors game they say where if you have a heli pilot that is just killing your team you grab an AA vehicle or a tank and have the secondary soflam the heli, dead.  Anybody remember the HVM-II in BF4 pick up weapon?  Great for taking down a heli that was murdering your team.  Or shoot you could even have the engineer perk so that you kept 7 rockets on you along with the automated AA.  Now if you are a ground troop you are simply fodder...75% of my deaths as infantry come to vehicles which seems far too high IMHO.  Thats literally the tip of the tip of the iceberg but its not just a "nerf this or that" issue, its partially a content issue because tanks don't have soflams and the wildcats are just a terrible anti air solution currently.  Transport chopper & condor take some 4 hits from an infantry AA so currently infantry has no shot to easily take them out.  This is literally just 1 aspect of the game.  If there was a TDM mode in the game at all times I'd play because there are only a few gunplay bugs in the game but I can get past those.  Balance issues and just a general lack of content( and when I say content I'm not talking about maps in this case) are just going to take months if not years at the pace they are going and I think we all know they are going to move on completely at some point.

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  • JarskyPlays's avatar
    JarskyPlays
    New Ace
    4 years ago
    @foff667 yup, i just tried out a few matches today.

    Battlefield2042 has now just become Helofield2042.

    Besides ImASentryWanker Boris not getting a nerf with the Specialist changes, the helo's are just absolutely OP. Players getting 100 kill streaks just sitting in them unable to die.

  • Necromantion's avatar
    Necromantion
    New Veteran
    4 years ago
    @JarskyPlays wrote:
    @foff667yup, i just tried out a few matches today.

    Battlefield2042 has now just become Helofield2042.

    Besides ImASentryWanker Boris not getting a nerf with the Specialist changes, the helo's are just absolutely OP. Players getting 100 kill streaks just sitting in them unable to die.

    You mean Condor and Superhind dominated.

    As a very experienced heli pilot, they're not op - esp the actual attack choppers. 

    Just nobody spawns wildcats and actually uses the AA guns. Miniguns and AA guns rip apart all aircraft, any time I have issues with helis vs my team i just spawn a wildcat and laugh as i get a bunch of kills. 

  • SlipperyLiz4rd's avatar
    SlipperyLiz4rd
    Seasoned Hotshot
    4 years ago

    @Necromantion

    Have you actually used the AA variant of the Wildcat recently? The dual AA cannon on it is very weak. It can take out jets quite quickly, if they're low enough. But for most of the choppers I'd hardly describe it as "ripping apart" the aircraft. You'd have to sustain fire on them for quite some time even if they're very close to the vehicle. For the transport choppers it feels more like shooting at a tank, with their own weaponary more likely to rip you apart in short order.

    Combined with how terrible the thermal smoke is, how long the AA missiles take to lock and how easily they lose the lock, turret turn speed and elevation restrictions the AA vehicles are increadibly weak. If a chopper is close to you they will easily kill you before you can kill them. They should fear AA vehicles enough to keep their distance, they need to completely rework the Wildcat in AA configuration.

  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    4 years ago

    @SlipperyLiz4rdI am only pretty much using the AA guns on the wildcat and have the AT missiles for the ground vehicles. This setup is puting hurt on infantry, ground vehicles and aircraft.

    But sadly I do not get to use it much because
    Someone always occupies all the vehicle slots I may want to use and even if I get one, DICE designed 2042 to try its best to prevent me from getting the same vehicle category again before some drooling blueberry does.

  • JarskyPlays's avatar
    JarskyPlays
    New Ace
    4 years ago
    @Necromantion nope, they are OP. A Wildcat can be destroyed by a Condor or Superhind before you can even get close enough for the weapons to be effective. The AA machine gun does absolutely nothing now against the the transport helis. Theyre essentially flying tanks.

    If you're playing Breakthrough you have no AA in most sectors as defense either. Its virtually impossible to defend against a Condor that just circles with 2 repairers and 3 gunners now.
  • BR-DuaneDibbley's avatar
    BR-DuaneDibbley
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @SlipperyLiz4rd


    True, the Aircraft (IMO especially the Condor) are absolutely OP after the last patch. There cannot be any doubt about that and if some 'experienced heli pilot' says otherwise, then he did not try to take one down after the patch.

    I could convince some friends to try out BF2042 last Friday (our usual gaming night), because most of my clan left the franchise and moved on. But I said that the Infantry mode in Portal is actually pretty enjoyable and they should try it out. They came and realized that Dice had actually removed this mode again. So most sof the others left and only 4 of us stayed and we played the 5 good maps (and El Alamein) in the remaining Portal mode that sounded to be fun.

    We are coordinated squad, all in Teamspeak and I was running Rao with Hacking + SOFLAM while the others were using Angel + M5. Usually with us as coordinated BF veterans we make short work of those vehicles -- especially as also others on the server would be joining in, because we won't be the only ones running M5. What happened was: we were slaughtered again and again. Not sure how many M5 hits a Condor requires, but the short flare reload time it's almost if not completely impossible.

    This would not be THAT bad if the Condor would be a pure transport, maybe with miniguns, But they are indestructable killing machines and whoever thought it would be a good idea to fit these things with the weapons they got, was either a sadist or out of her mind. They COMPLETELY destroy balance and made us leave the server and play better games instead.

  • TAW_Rinko's avatar
    TAW_Rinko
    Seasoned Veteran
    4 years ago

    This 0.4 patch is, as you say, not it by itself.

    It's a...well, not good...but reasonable start. Let's remember it still turned up late, and that has not been acknowledged far less apologized for by Dice.

    If Dice do want to turn 2042 around, they have to pick up the pace. Frankly, smaller but more frequent patches would be better.

    And they've got to address the missing core features properly. Refusing comment on whether or not they intend to restore these necessary mechanisms is not how you build, or rebuild, a community.

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