So I jumped back on BF2042 after a few months to play on the new exposure map and I guess the game is still flowing with the same problems.Firstly the audio: the background audio of the game is decent it gives a decent atmosphere feel that you are on a battlefield but it’s as if they missed the most important factor of audio in this game which is sense of awareness, you can literally be in the inner section of the map aiming west for 1 minute turn to east for 2 seconds turn back to west and see 15 enemies running towards you at full speed, where is the build of noise from 15 enemies running towards you or even where is the sense of direction of 2-3 people shooting why can’t I gauge whether someone is shooting at me and missing or shooting at a different direction? Secondly hit reg: I felt if the hit reg is still as bad as it was at launch at times I would put half a mag in someone directly while they are looking away from me they would turn to my direction but as they have turned to my direction I am already dead, again no real audio from their gun also. I use stealth gen 2 turtle beach headphones for the ps5 so they are somewhat good headphones and also have 1gb download speeds on my internet so that voids me have bad net. discuss, do you come across these issues?

Yes all agreed and noted similarly @RAMBO2k9 !We raised these malfunctions to the EA/.DICE team already in the first technical playtest period and also again in the beta testing period. And still the game launched with such sub-standard audio functionality. The Dev team and sound engineers that made BF games famous for their audio unfortunately all left the studio, with the last leaving during the BFV game development cycle. And its obvious that the new employees in this area are not skilled to the same level as the old experienced team was able to produce this game in. (or they were not given the time and resources required, to get the job done to 'normal legacy' Battlefield standards.)Current sound universe is like shallow and one dimensional only. So no spatial awareness with proper 3d sound scheme as we had in previous Battlefield games. Likewise, many of the weapons and vehicles are just very poorly replicated with their audio in the game. And as you note, its like we only get a few select audio tracks coming through to us while in game, so no depths or breath of the full scenario we are in, in the audio feed we get. And the audio is a very important aspect of supporting the submerged gaming experience in first person shooter games.Which all is again making this BF2042 game come across as a half-fabricated cheap BF game versus our previous experiences in this game franchise.

These are two of the more disappointing things about the game (along with no Server Browser).For audio, the spatial thing gets me every time. In other games or previous titles I could hear someone before I could see them, especially in close quarters. For hit reg, I have no clue what is going on. It feels like a huge desync. If we could choose the servers we play on, we could at least guarantee we have a good ping to the server. I wonder what tick rate the servers are?

Some people might say its nothing we should cry about but audio and hitreg are one if not the most important things when it comes to first person shooters.I have the same issue with the audio design. In Battlefield V it was relatively easy to notice foodsteps of an enemy approaching me. Even the direction was on point. So when I was inside a building and knew the enemy wont have a clue that Im inside I could easily outplay him simply by good audio design.In Battlefield 2042 however its almost impossible to hear foodsteps especially the direction where they come from. Sometimes I do hear them and they are so loud that I turn around just to notice it was a spawning teammate following me. While enemies have almost no foodstep sounds. Its weird.Hitreg yes. I have multiple videos posted on reddit about this. And it keeps being an issue. Here is the latest:https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/v7z3fi/eh_what/

The delay on my screen is actually a real issue. I have no idea if it`s only broken in-game mouse tracking. There is no PING lobby info. Additionally, my RTX 2070 (MSI Ventus) in reality performs as 2060. The CPU constantly asks the GPU if it can render the proper frame time probably. So having all that in mind really shows the scope of the problem. I made sure to run memory at 3850Mhz with the most optimal timings with R9 3900X and this helped me a lot in certain games.So yeah, fixing in-game mouse tracking, working more on the netcode, game optimization, and bringing back community servers with PING info could save at least some frustration. The audio is not the greatest, tank sounds are on par with the indie game level of immersion not to mention the physics of some of the vehicles.Stuttering on 128-player maps is real!!! 64-player maps are fine but in certain parts of the map, I do feel slowdowns, and some bottlenecking.

@CyberDyme Yep players without regional servers are being put in nearest out of region servers but the problem is for the game to be playable for them lag compensation has to be increased and it’s absolutely killing the game at my end with a huge ping of 20ms

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16 Replies

CyberDyme
4 years ago
Yes all agreed and noted similarly @RAMBO2k9 !
We raised these malfunctions to the EA/.DICE team already in the first technical playtest period and also again in the beta testing period. And still the game launched with such sub-standard audio functionality. The Dev team and sound engineers that made BF games famous for their audio unfortunately all left the studio, with the last leaving during the BFV game development cycle. And its obvious that the new employees in this area are not skilled to the same level as the old experienced team was able to produce this game in. (or they were not given the time and resources required, to get the job done to 'normal legacy' Battlefield standards.)
Current sound universe is like shallow and one dimensional only. So no spatial awareness with proper 3d sound scheme as we had in previous Battlefield games. Likewise, many of the weapons and vehicles are just very poorly replicated with their audio in the game. And as you note, its like we only get a few select audio tracks coming through to us while in game, so no depths or breath of the full scenario we are in, in the audio feed we get. And the audio is a very important aspect of supporting the submerged gaming experience in first person shooter games.
Which all is again making this BF2042 game come across as a half-fabricated cheap BF game versus our previous experiences in this game franchise.
RAMBO2k9
4 years ago
@CyberDyme I agree with you it really comes off as a half fabricated cheap BF game, I mean cmon I play insurgency sandstorm now most of the time and the audio is flawless on that game I can literally track an enemy through a wall because of the audio, much small studio with way less resources and funding it’s just not acceptable.

It’s even the little details for me such as when I was testing recoil patterns on the wall, I mean have you ever shot a wall and gone close up to it? I think that took me over the edge.
Adamonic
4 years ago
These are two of the more disappointing things about the game (along with no Server Browser).
For audio, the spatial thing gets me every time. In other games or previous titles I could hear someone before I could see them, especially in close quarters.
For hit reg, I have no clue what is going on. It feels like a huge desync. If we could choose the servers we play on, we could at least guarantee we have a good ping to the server. I wonder what tick rate the servers are?
emerson1975
4 years ago
The hit reg is worse because I know for a fact they are putting people out of region and that’s why hit reg has changed to allow more lag compensation for their higher ping!
It’s barely playable for me with 15ms ping
LS5_71
4 years ago
I notice the hit registration goes to garbage when the servers get full. I usually play 128 conquest and when the server is around 100 it seems ok.
Can always tell when the server gets full.
SithMetal71
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@RAMBO2k9 There are still issues with hearing vehicles coming to you and in the background in general. Still having issues not hearing tanks roll in until it is too late. These need to be louder.
Sooxzay
4 years ago
Some people might say its nothing we should cry about but audio and hitreg are one if not the most important things when it comes to first person shooters.
I have the same issue with the audio design. In Battlefield V it was relatively easy to notice foodsteps of an enemy approaching me. Even the direction was on point. So when I was inside a building and knew the enemy wont have a clue that Im inside I could easily outplay him simply by good audio design.
In Battlefield 2042 however its almost impossible to hear foodsteps especially the direction where they come from. Sometimes I do hear them and they are so loud that I turn around just to notice it was a spawning teammate following me. While enemies have almost no foodstep sounds. Its weird.
Hitreg yes. I have multiple videos posted on reddit about this. And it keeps being an issue. Here is the latest:
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/v7z3fi/eh_what/
RAMBO2k9
4 years ago
@Sooxzay That video is shocking and I agree good audio and hit reg is vital for a FPS game otherwise you lose the immersive experience and also you’re only relying on one sense which is your eyes I’m glad it isn’t a isolated issue.
Unimatrix08
Rising Traveler
4 years ago
The hitreg hasn't been too kind for me either. Dumping half a mag or even more with the M5A1.
Or at times getting 1 frame killed... drop like a sack of potatoes in less than a second.
"The die behind the wall thing", after being shot at and taking cover, is still a thing too...
cso7777
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
The audio in BF-games has always been pretty poor. It was improved in BF1 and BFV (compared to BF4 which was a total joke), but it still seems like the game too often favors certain "immersion sounds" over important gameplay related sounds like nearby footsteps, gunfire and vehicles.
Vehicle sound is a joke, you cannot hear them or they sound like they are on the other side of the map, even if they are right behind/over you. I actually think that if the sound of vehicles worked, vehicles would probably be less of a problem for infantry. Getting killed by 'silent' vehicles is part of the problem with vehicle/infantry balance.
In BFV (and probably earlier titles as well) the game-engine could only play 20 sound-effects at once and therefore had to prioritize sounds, it feels like this is still the case in 2042, sometimes things like footsteps works and at other times it doesn't.
BF needs to be less frustrating to play, audio is one thing that really can be frustrating (like not hearing 10 players coming behind you, Sundance landing totally silent behind you etc).