Why did dice nerf the Boris's turret so bad it's basically useless now? They should have either nerfed it's damage/health/range or removed the orange highlighting of the enemy. But by doing both it's now so useless. Now you destroy it so easily with 1 clip and lose no health. Now the enemy can run by it and it doesn't even notice them. Why the Angel armor nerf? So now Angel can only give himself and his teammates ammo. The armour was the main reason to use him! He was the only specialists that did teamwork. There's already a ammo crate so why would anyone use Angel? He's so useless now.

I view both these changes as a positive.No robot-guns or robot-dogs would be better yet.Armor plates should've never been introduced into BF anyway, leave that crap in COD.

Angel is still the best specialist even without the armor....that's how ridiculous he was. He had (4) top tier abilities before, now he just has ( 3 ). Most other specialists are lucky to have ( 1 ) top tier ability.Ability to revive. Gadget resupply with +1 rocket ammo. That +1 rocket is critical since it makes solo'ing tanks much more doable.'Free' deployable gadgets (spawn beacon, AT mine and/or armor)*He's by far the best anti-armor specialist, while still being 90% of Falck AND he gets the deployable gadgets for 'free'.He is not useless.*Spawn as Angel with spawn beacon. Drop spawn beacon. Call in crate. Switch to loadout #2 which has AT mines. Deploy mines. Head back to crate. Switch to loadout #3 with AT launcher (or other preferred gadget). With this approach you can run around in your preferred gadget while still getting all the benefits of deployed mines and spawn beacon. Mines and beacon don't de-spawn even after you switch kits. I haven't tested it yet, but I suspect that the body armor will stick with Angel even though he swaps to a different (non-armor) loadout.

@HARLEMnycity He still has loadout crate and ammo bag yes?As to armor plates already in the game, yes remove those as well.

I usually play Angel and the first thing I do when trying to cap a flag is call for a loadout crate, then begin clearing enemies and distributing ammo/armor to teammates. Even with removing the ability to dispense armor I honestly don't see how it will change that play style.

@cso7777Angel was so over the top that every squad had at least two. I freely admit it was the first one I took to T1 as it was easy. Ammo, ammo crates, revives and armor? It was easily the most regular specialist in game as it has so many ways to make points. While the armor plates were handy, losing them doesn’t change that player much. He can still throw ammo, call in crates to change load outs with, and revive like crazy. Nerfing the turrets, which again I read so much hate about yet they could be killed with a mag, and had a slow enough lock on that if you’re not running around like a doorknob then they’re easy to kill… wasn’t necessary. Taking the wall spotting out is, nothing should do that except maybe sensor balls.It’s going to make T1 of Boris a lot longer to get though.

Boris turret nerf & Angel armor nerf

50 Replies

Ironhead841
Hero
4 years ago
I view both these changes as a positive.
No robot-guns or robot-dogs would be better yet.
Armor plates should've never been introduced into BF anyway, leave that crap in COD.
HARLEMnycity
4 years ago
@Ironhead841 But armor plates are still in the game? So now you just have inconsistent gun fights after you use your 2 armor plates. Taking armor from Angel just made him useless
Ironhead841
Hero
4 years ago
@HARLEMnycity
He still has loadout crate and ammo bag yes?
As to armor plates already in the game, yes remove those as well.
HARLEMnycity
4 years ago
@Ironhead841 load out crate had always rarely been used since it takes so long. Again every single specialists in the game has access to a ammo crate so that's a useless ability. Angel is pointless now, that's my point
Ironhead841
Hero
4 years ago
I usually play Angel and the first thing I do when trying to cap a flag is call for a loadout crate, then begin clearing enemies and distributing ammo/armor to teammates.
Even with removing the ability to dispense armor I honestly don't see how it will change that play style.
cso7777
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@HARLEMnycity You are probably right, Angel is more or less pointless.

Having to create a lot of specialists with unique abilities is just asking for trouble. We end with some specialists being worthless and some of them being overpowered.

That is why they should never have used specialists for a BF-game.

And passive items like turrets and robot dogs should be removed from the game. These are just sucking the fun out of the game for everybody else, than the ones using them.
ATFGunr
Legend
4 years ago
@cso7777Angel was so over the top that every squad had at least two. I freely admit it was the first one I took to T1 as it was easy. Ammo, ammo crates, revives and armor? It was easily the most regular specialist in game as it has so many ways to make points. While the armor plates were handy, losing them doesn’t change that player much. He can still throw ammo, call in crates to change load outs with, and revive like crazy. Nerfing the turrets, which again I read so much hate about yet they could be killed with a mag, and had a slow enough lock on that if you’re not running around like a doorknob then they’re easy to kill… wasn’t necessary. Taking the wall spotting out is, nothing should do that except maybe sensor balls.

It’s going to make T1 of Boris a lot longer to get though.
foff667
4 years ago
@HARLEMnycity because it is a crutch and should've never been in the game in the first place. Legally who knows if they can completely remove it, so this is the next best thing. Sorry not sorry. F boris.
Padding_Ur_Stat
4 years ago
Nerfing AI is good. Turrets could be dropped when they are killed. Ridiculous. Turrets and Rangers should not be lethal. Simply placing it on the ground and leaving, or even worse, using it as a wall that people shoot, instead of you, when they enter a room, is EZmode.

At best, they should be doing minimal damage. The fact they target, essentially pointing to where the target is , and fire is enough for you the player, to respond and get a kill
Angels armor nerf was ridiculous. It essentially took one or two more bullets to kill a player. But hey, it is easier for vehicles to farm ground so

WOOOO HOOOO
All Hail VehicleField 2042
AngrySquid270
4 years ago
Angel is still the best specialist even without the armor....that's how ridiculous he was. He had (4) top tier abilities before, now he just has ( 3 ). Most other specialists are lucky to have ( 1 ) top tier ability.
Ability to revive.
Gadget resupply with +1 rocket ammo. That +1 rocket is critical since it makes solo'ing tanks much more doable.
'Free' deployable gadgets (spawn beacon, AT mine and/or armor)*
He's by far the best anti-armor specialist, while still being 90% of Falck AND he gets the deployable gadgets for 'free'.
He is not useless.
*Spawn as Angel with spawn beacon. Drop spawn beacon. Call in crate. Switch to loadout #2 which has AT mines. Deploy mines. Head back to crate. Switch to loadout #3 with AT launcher (or other preferred gadget). With this approach you can run around in your preferred gadget while still getting all the benefits of deployed mines and spawn beacon. Mines and beacon don't de-spawn even after you switch kits. I haven't tested it yet, but I suspect that the body armor will stick with Angel even though he swaps to a different (non-armor) loadout.