I hate all out warfare because of the specialists and the awful map design. The graphics are also a whole separate issue that I'm not going to talk about. But Dice, please delete these two massive problems with the game and give us a true battlefield experience like you did with portal. It's not like you are incompetent, cause you did do it with portal. Now copy that method and add on to it. [Edit: All caps removed from title - ElliotLH]

@Stew360 Stop saying you played this game longer than anyone else... I started the series with BF1942 Beta/demo. Doesn't make my opinion any better than someone who started with BF3...If you think this is the best BF they ever made than you're in a very serious minority... Maybe this is exactly what YOU wanted out of a BF game, which again, is fair and your opinion. But MOST of the BF community did NOT want this hero-shooter wannabe...

@FatFranzYou are free to just back to whatever BF in the series is a BF to you .. and stop requesting things that no ones want beside a handfull of overly vocal and totally unrealistic players .. Who ask each and everyones of them a different " Vision " of what they call battlefield ...Ive played BF for longer than pretty much anyones on these forums .. And sorry but beside breakaway and Kaleidoscope the maps are very good for conquest WICH IS THE true BF experience ...Also in find this BF to be the best BF they ever made since BF2 ... BF3 was not bad per say neither BF4 but they were not as good as BF2042 in so many aspect ..Some maps needs improovement here and there .. So balance issues need to be adressed here and there ... But DICE dosnt have to shut the game or fundamentally changed it ...They created PORTAL just for peoples like these who want BF 2042 to be a carbon copy of old tittle .... Portal offer almost unlimited possibility ... But you know the truth ? Almost no ones want to play these even if they put lots of effort into the modable aspect .. Why ?Because most peoples who dont spend a seconds on forums actually enjoy the base game more than these " Users created modes " wich they might play for an hour or so every now and then ..Now the " Target audience " they had for portal want to force everyones into the " OLD " experience because they cant get populated servers for their " vision " of what BF should be .. Thats the realityBF2042 base game is very much a battlefield wich at its core is a COnquest type game with combines arms gameplay , Air , Ground and infantry troops battltling out ! .

@SirBobdk We jumped into 1942 last night to see what the fuss was about and I have to say, there was no real difference in terms of this mythical 'cover' between El Alamein and Hourglass for example.Both have large open expanses of 'nothing'!Although there is no real direct comparison, the same with Battle of the Bulge. (I also noticed that the church is the same as BFV and the windmill is from BF1!).Not saying these maps are bad in and of themselves but in terms of cover, not that much different from BF2042 maps.It just seems that the 'community' want large maps but don't want to travel far with loads of detail that isn't cluttered and has loads of cover that can be destroyed.

@Kyosji He already PMd me saying I never played 1942 because my forum account is from 2016...EA Answers didn't even exist in 2002 and his own account is from 2013 so by his logic, he never played it either."Cause I said so" is his only go-to remark to make. Also blocked him lol.

I had high hopes for this game because of all the animation vids they had for it during build up. They showed a heavy infantry aspect in those videos and more details and destruction. It was also supposed to go back to the roots of battlefield. How can you advertise that you're going to the roots while putting in specialists. I agree with the person that called this a hero shooter now. Specialists shouldn't have had names, they should have been replacements for the engineer, medic, assault, and recon instead. They didn't need to be basically named mercenaries. It makes fighting sometimes confusing because you're attacking player models that look exactly like your team. That's a dumb decision.Maps are very few, and not very good. Graphics are pretty low and there's nearly no map details. Feels like some quickly made korean mmo where all the houses are empty. There's nothing unique. There's nothing really to destroy, and the ones that do are very clunky and unrealistic compared to the last few BF games. There's also A LOT of empty space. It makes you feel like this is barely an infantry shooter anymore. Vehicles dominate everything, and the Heli's are just insane with how much empty ground there is. For the guy that mentioned we shouldn't be running across empty fields....most of these maps you really have no choice in the matter. They are some of the largest BF maps to date, but 80% of it is just empty, fully exposed land. The maps need more cover for ground troops to move around in, and most of the vehicles need a lot of rework.The weapons I'm not going to really complain too much about, mainly because I can't imagine them not adding more, however, the synergy around them need to be adjusted. Everyone complains that no one is restocking or throwing out medpacks....could that possibly be because they made these massive maps dominated by vehicles, and infantry need to carry anti vehicle weapons on them to cross the map? That weapon that takes over the slot for your medbag or ammo? Dumb decision considering that you could use both of those in previous BF games. Again, if we're going back to our roots, why are you forcing something on us that is completely different than our norm? They were so excited to push out the specialists that no one asked for and was never in past BF games (roots again), that they hijacked one of the slots that would normally be for either your weapon tool or your med/ammo slot instead, then wonder why no one is healing or resupplying, lol.Game is just a giant contradiction to what most of us were under the impression we were getting from this game, and they deserve this backlash.

Delete Specialists, Delete the Maps

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dirtytamato
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@Trokey66 Ya and el Alamein was in a natural dessert so it makes sense. Also bf1 siani dessert is huge and open, but again it's in the dessert. Hour glass is in a city, so where's all the buildings and close quarters combat like it should be in a city?
Anarchiesx
Rising Veteran
4 years ago
@dirtytamato uhh... the CQ combat is in the city you absolute *. There's a whole sector of the map for it. Crying about the rest of the map being a desert is just stupid. It's a city in the desert. Wild concept, I know. There are also tons of sand dunes providing cover between all of the sectors so that gunfire is mostly limited to each area, and so people aren't being sniped from across the map.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@SirBobdk I only started with the first Bad Company but there have deffo been more than a few maps since that game that could be considered to have wide open spaces with a lack of cover.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@dirtytamatoit is a city that has been mostly swallowed by the desert. I know this may be a difficult concept for you to accept but left unchecked, that is what happens with sand, it moves.....
Buzzfunk
4 years ago
@Stew360 "Ive played BF for longer than pretty much anyones on these forums "

rofl. Is that right? Do you know that for a fact? Does this make your opinion more valid than others? lol /eye roll GTFO
SirBobdk
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Trokey66 wrote:
@SirBobdkI only started with the first Bad Company but there have deffo been more than a few maps since that game that could be considered to have wide open spaces with a lack of cover.
Yes it is true. But from BF3 we started to see more of small / medium size maps which were primarily infantry oriented. BF changed direction and began appealing to more. Not that I think it got any worse.
In my opinion, it's hard to say what a true BF is. It probably depends on where you come from.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@SirBobdk I think the only 'universal' definition is along the lines of 'vehicle and infantry combat on (relatively) large maps with a sand box feel'.

Beyond that it becomes to subjective.
dirtytamato
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@Trokey66 Yes but it is still a city, so where is the dense amount of buildings? I'm fine with the sand swallowing the city, but where is the city???? There like 6 buildings
SirBobdk
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Trokey66 wrote:
@SirBobdkI think the only 'universal' definition is along the lines of 'vehicle and infantry combat on (relatively) large maps with a sand box feel'.

Beyond that it becomes to subjective.
Absolutly.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@dirtytamato It is the outskirts of the city for the love of all things sacred, many of the low buildings have been completely covered along with most of the roads. The 'city' starts at the high-rises.

Why are you trying to make it something it is not and can't just accept it for what it is?

You know, the edge of a city that has been largely swallowed by the desert.

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