Hi.It's really getting out of hand. It's too spammy. Best i've had 4 TV dodge at once but eventually i loose to them cause i has nowhere to go, i can't counter cause person(s) that use, is hidden. So, what are my options now here?Small backstory, i am good pilot and have been piloting since bf3. It's just next level annoyance and penalty for me is to wait and stare screen to get another helo. It can go from 2mins to half game, is it really worth it? When infantry drops, his wait time is 5 seconds and then continues.

I've laugh soo much reading the OP complaining here...I could not resist saying a word.Soo Man_ILoveFishing you pretend to be a good pilot? I don't know, i doubt it but who cares, you describe yourself as a terrible battlefield player.What's soo hilarious in your text? Let's check all of this.First everybody knows in gaming world that "only pilots in BF" are not good pilots....Why will you ask? Because it's easier to farm infantry focused on ground objectives, while most oponents don't have any tool to defend or retaliate....For example playing air superirity would make other players able to play with you... But we all know you're not looking for this as you talk about infantry timer on spawn...BF franchise has some good pilots, but the franchise is well known for attrack bad pilots. The good ones go in other games. Battlefield is farm simulator for "only pilots".Good pilots seek fighting, not fishing in a barrel with grenades....Battlefield 2042 offer the minimum for a pilot, it's barely fun... BUT ! You can farm infantry and get big ratio far more easilly than with anything else in the game. If you like piloting BF2042 is one of the worst game available... No you look to have an advantage ingame that's it. At least don't lie to yourself.You don't agree and pretend to be good? Show me any stronger asset in the game... oups you failed... You use ONLY the strongest part of the game... that's it.Before you bring the second hilarious joke of "bad only pilots".... Battlefield is about vehicules go play COD if you don't like them.... I'll answer it. BF is FPS game, meaning infantry with vehicules support. Not the oposite. It's designed to play mostly infantry and sometimes vehicules but low players prefer to play only vehicules because it help them a lot.Why this thread is halarious?1 - Because you can play as you want, but you're facing a limitation for noobs and complain about it... Yea you have to wait in spawn, but only because you're bad and can't play normally...You don't want 2 minutes waiting in spawn? Play it as intended and don't try to turn it in easy farm simulator.2- Your first sentence... "it's too spammy".... THIS was hilarious from someone who spam rockets on the ground with infinite ammo....In conclusion you want all advantages, using strongest assets for yourself without any penalties....And you claim to be "good" while complaining here ?You can play as you want, but while doing this you penalise your team because they have one less player when you lose minutes in spawn menu. And then you prevent others from accessing the vehicules because you monopolise them. And for bad result (you're complaining aboutt missiles spam and spawn timers) you lose those vehicules fast.In a few lines you've just shown that you're not a good pilot, you're a bad Battlefield player and most important an awfull teammate ruining team's chances with bad behaviour.You should consider playing the game as intended and not twist it to hard to your advantage or go play another game.Thanks for the laugh dude.

@AngrySquid270 wrote:How many infantry AA players should it take to neutralize a heli pilot?Several. I’m tempted to say 10 because the respawn cooldown of a helicopter is about 10x longer than infantry. I’d settle for 4-5. Currently it takes one Rao to prevent you from playing the game. It takes one BS Lis rocket that doesn’t even touch you to take you out.

Yeah it’s rough. Constant hacks and lock-ons and there’s usually an AA camper that sits near their spawn. That’s not even mentioning the enemy aircraft. The people that complain that AA is weak are delusional.Yep. Just played a game where there was a Rao hiding in a bush somewhere and I couldn’t find him. Hacked me all game. Whenever Rao hacks he needs to light up like I scanned him with Paik. Ultimate coward specialist.

@l_Grand_Vizir_l wrote:@-AC-Ju5t1cei love those "héli" threads, you have the funniest over self estim coments you could find, thanks for yours.Silk explain the game is unplayable for many reasons mostly technical points, not because of Lis... Don't make other players talk with your words, it's really sad.Then comes the funny part.So in your opinion, if i do not claim here "i'm soo good" my opinion is invalid? It was not a coment but a statment from myself on how i judge my performance... You have absolutly no clue of how i play.Soo it's only a toxic tennage talk there, grow up.Oh let's go further... you rely on STATS to judge players ?!?!?You know Portal is a farm simulator for many players and stats have absolutly no sense here?You pretend a lot but seem to be really ignorant about this game.It has always been a false inidcator in BF because it does not show what you play, Conquest, Tdm, Air sup, etc etc . This radicaly changes your stats dude. And not considering itjust demonstrates a little more that you are obtuse and only look at what you want. There is no way to debate with someone who's still imature enough to consider a player only on a few numbers especially when stats are twisted like in this BF2042.You have no argument to defend your opinion and instead try some bashing on players who think different from you?"Open my stats or afraid"... Are you really taunting me like a 12 years old ???? Waow congrats, you made me laugh a lot. But please, try to find some solid arguments to debate instead of such childish attitude.Debate... Well It could be a debate, but seing how it goes it's gonna turn in a usual 3-4 players stating they know better and everybody else is wrong and don't understand because only those 3 or 4 players are true players. We, all other scrubs, don't get it because we are stupid of course... blablabla Hopeless, just let this thread die with those 3 or 4 "great players" who spend their time in the spawn screen but have great stats to shame us and gonna bring light to the blind crowd of bad players we are... You already said you’re not the best pilot so your opinion doesn’t matter either.

Helicopter gameplay is near damn impossible

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Echo6Echo
3 years ago
@SpudBug wrote:
@Echo6EchoYes I switched from pilot that targets enemy team's aircraft to just playing lis because it's much easier to kill enemy aircraft with lis than it is in a 1v1 with another heli.

It's just easier on the ground. You get to spam TV's at the enemy without them even being able to see you most of the time. And it's very easy to hit, and is a one shot kill. It's cheap and overpowered so I'm using it now.
Let's see your video!!!
Padding_Ur_Stat
3 years ago
@Man_iLoveFishing
@Padding_Ur_Stats It's how you shoot, if I'm flying away and you shoot behind, you missile travels FASTER,
Youre faster and you are warned. Turn, Hard right when you hear tone. You just beat Lis
but you are going to be out of range.
Lis missiles are like a 300 meter range. Fly fast for 300 meters.
Now, if missile is coming from front, tell me theory how fast I can fly away.
This is different. Not only do you get tone, but you see this HUGE RED FLARE heading right at you. TURN!!!!!!!    Elevate.   OMG they do it literally
ALL THE TIME
I cannot understand how you are getting farmed by Lis.   The only thing I can think of is youre one of those Helos who hover over objectives pummeling it with your unlimited ammo and rockets.   That is what is getting you hit.
Even still, The moment you hear tone. Bank, elevate, accelerate.   You just beat Lis.
Man_iLoveFishing
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Padding_Ur_Statsever done physics? Now simulate that in your head, you can cut me cause you missile turns faster with same speed, if I do hard turn my velocity drops.
Edit: I have same exact situation on video, after few hours I get home from work I can show.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
3 years ago
@Padding_Ur_Stats It is such a drag to practice the liz rockets with the amount of waiting involved in their reload.
Echo6Echo
3 years ago
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@Padding_Ur_StatsIt is such a drag to practice the liz rockets with the amount of waiting involved in their reload.
bots...but yeah, it sucks
CPT_GASLIGHT
3 years ago
@Padding_Ur_Stats You really need to stop talking. You’re a .4 KD player that complained Casper’s drone couldn’t C5 armor out of nowhere. You have absolutely no clue how the game is played at the highest levels.
Echo6Echo
3 years ago
OK, I put together a couple of clips I took today. Here's the breakdown:
AA Runs
1. Shot one - shooting at a Stealth, he flares, then flips into stealth mode, drops bombs and hauls it out to safety.
2. Shot two - same stealth on his way back from regenning flares. He flares this shot.
3. Shot three - same stealth after he flared. I'm surprised I got this shot in as he was trying to hide in the rocks but wasn't low enough AND he was far away. (this just proves the buff to AA wasn't good enough. I do get a hit, but not a kill as no one else was shooting at him. Watch after the hit and you'll see him skulking around in the OOB regenning.
4. Shot four - Two things here. Number one, I was able to lock on through the tree which is surprising. Maybe that got fixed?? But after the shot, notice the stealth just slips into stealth and runs and I never get a hit.
5. The last sequence is the Stealth finally getting tired of me making him run. I thought he was going to come out of stealth because he didn't have a gunner, but turns out he did. You can see at the end, he drops bombs and then comes out of stealth as his gunner gets me.
CONCLUSION: A single person can barely get a hit on a Stealth with an AA. Even if two or even three of us were shooting at him, he probably would have survived. I think the one sequence where I actually get a hit, we could have gotten him ONLY if we all could have locked on and fired.
Lis TV Missile Runs
1. Shot one - Stealth just flat outruns the missile. Who said they couldn't outrun the thing???
2. Shot two - Originally I fired at the Hind, but the Stealth was closer. He easily jinks the missile. Believe me I was yanking and banking the mouse. I have a 16" up/down and 24" side to side mousepad. I was using ALL of it...How maneuverable is that thing again?
3. Shot three - I almost fired at the Stealth but it was going over the mountain. Notice the Hind when I fire IMMEDIATELY changes direction and starts jinking. He damn near outruns the missile flat out but finally just out jinks how quickly I can move. Again, I'm yanking and banking with 2 FEET of mousepad here...
4. Shot four - Fire at the Hind again and he just simply jinks at the last second. I can't turn around quick enough.
CONCLUSION: I'm not sure who thinks this missile is maneuvering like a stealth or little bird, but I'd like to see another video where it's doing it. And a chopper can most certainly outrun the thing. I wouldn't even bother firing it at a jet. You'd be hard pressed to get a consistent solid hit on a chopper with Lis.
Granted these pilots were pretty good, but that's the point...you AREN'T supposed to just sit still and farm away at the infantry. If you do that, yeah you'll get pummeled by both AA and TV missiles. But any amount of competency will overwhealm two or even three players shooting at you and that's bordering on OP. Not quite, but bordering. A really good pilot is going to run circles around these. ONLY if the other team has three or four good players who know how to box in, can the thing be taken down easily.
So where are the videos showing how EASY it is to hit with a Lis Missile?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjCB0IcRc6U
CPT_GASLIGHT
3 years ago
@Echo6Echo wrote:
OK, I put together a couple of clips I took today. Here's the breakdown:
AA Runs
1. Shot one - shooting at a Stealth, he flares, then flips into stealth mode, drops bombs and hauls it out to safety.
2. Shot two - same stealth on his way back from regenning flares. He flares this shot.
3. Shot three - same stealth after he flared. I'm surprised I got this shot in as he was trying to hide in the rocks but wasn't low enough AND he was far away. (this just proves the buff to AA wasn't good enough. I do get a hit, but not a kill as no one else was shooting at him. Watch after the hit and you'll see him skulking around in the OOB regenning.
4. Shot four - Two things here. Number one, I was able to lock on through the tree which is surprising. Maybe that got fixed?? But after the shot, notice the stealth just slips into stealth and runs and I never get a hit.
5. The last sequence is the Stealth finally getting tired of me making him run. I thought he was going to come out of stealth because he didn't have a gunner, but turns out he did. You can see at the end, he drops bombs and then comes out of stealth as his gunner gets me.
CONCLUSION: A single person can barely get a hit on a Stealth with an AA. Even if two or even three of us were shooting at him, he probably would have survived. I think the one sequence where I actually get a hit, we could have gotten him ONLY if we all could have locked on and fired.
Lis TV Missile Runs
1. Shot one - Stealth just flat outruns the missile. Who said they couldn't outrun the thing???
2. Shot two - Originally I fired at the Hind, but the Stealth was closer. He easily jinks the missile. Believe me I was yanking and banking the mouse. I have a 16" up/down and 24" side to side mousepad. I was using ALL of it...How maneuverable is that thing again?
3. Shot three - I almost fired at the Stealth but it was going over the mountain. Notice the Hind when I fire IMMEDIATELY changes direction and starts jinking. He damn near outruns the missile flat out but finally just out jinks how quickly I can move. Again, I'm yanking and banking with 2 FEET of mousepad here...
4. Shot four - Fire at the Hind again and he just simply jinks at the last second. I can't turn around quick enough.
CONCLUSION: I'm not sure who thinks this missile is maneuvering like a stealth or little bird, but I'd like to see another video where it's doing it. And a chopper can most certainly outrun the thing. I wouldn't even bother firing it at a jet. You'd be hard pressed to get a consistent solid hit on a chopper with Lis.
Granted these pilots were pretty good, but that's the point...you AREN'T supposed to just sit still and farm away at the infantry. If you do that, yeah you'll get pummeled by both AA and TV missiles. But any amount of competency will overwhealm two or even three players shooting at you and that's bordering on OP. Not quite, but bordering. A really good pilot is going to run circles around these. ONLY if the other team has three or four good players who know how to box in, can the thing be taken down easily.
So where are the videos showing how EASY it is to hit with a Lis Missile?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjCB0IcRc6U

You can't camp on a hill stinger or guided rocket with unlimited ammo and clear the air? Actually you did do that because the helicopter ran away. What exactly are you trying to say? It's not fair that I didn't get an easy lock-on kill? That it's too hard for an infantry player with a guided rocket unlimited ammo to solo kill an helicopter? What a joke.
Echo6Echo
3 years ago
@CPT_GASLIGHT wrote:

You can't camp on a hill stinger or guided rocket with unlimited ammo and clear the air? Actually you did do that because the helicopter ran away. What exactly are you trying to say? It's not fair that I didn't get an easy lock-on kill? That it's too hard for an infantry player with a guided rocket unlimited ammo to solo kill an helicopter? What a joke.

Did you even read my write up? Where did I say I was mad about anything especially not being able to one shot a helo? And I didn't "run him away" he came back and killed me. Trust me he was doing just fine on the scoreboard, which I didn't show. At NO point did I say I was upset about not getting a kill. Again, did you read my write up? What I said was that one person "could barely get a hit on a Stealth". I was refuting those who said that AA and Lis have "easy mode" against choppers. I actually mention that it would take 3 or 4 coordinated players to take one out. How about actually reading what someone writes and thinking about it before trying to lambast them.
CPT_GASLIGHT
3 years ago
I'm also seeing people complain that the Wildcat's are weak against the heli lmao. Guns with longest range of anything in the game and can zone off half the map. If you let the helicopter get close, you deserve to die in it.

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