This guy casually kills 2 condors, 1 apache, and 1 tank in 3 minutes. Won't be long before people start mass complaining about them even though there is only 1 attack vehicle slot now lol. I personally think they're very fun and should be left alone but they do make the Nightbird and Hokum/Apache obsolete.

Let me start of by saying that I accept all the hate I will get, and I agree with arguments for nerfing stealth helis.However I think there are smarter ways to nerf them outside of a mandatory 30mm nerf. Try to read my reasoning but tldr is at the bottom. For reference I have played helis since Bad Company 2 Apache and Huey days. I will not be playing stealth helis anymore cause I want Huey to remain my no1 kill vehicle. Most of the arguments I see on 30mm are amazing. Its just plain stupid, together with anti-tank rocket in one match I had over 22 vehicle kills and almost 18k vehicle damage. When playing as infantry (and I do that quite a lot I have some T1 weapons also) I hate being killed by it and as a pilot, it doesnt feel at least rewarding outside helping my team a lot.Problem is that anyone can use it. Unlike first gun you unlock, 30mm doesnt need any high skill and most average pilots who just finished learning how to fly can shread anything with it. Easy fix would be to lower its splash-damage and to make it heat-up much faster. I would say a good amount is the one 30mm on russian KA heli has. On topic of lock-ons and Rao. Let me start of by saying that as both pilot and infantry, it feels much better to be taken down or to take down a heli with new TV rocket. **Because unlike lock-ons it requires skill.**Rao is fine as it is, as a team with only 2 or more good Raos and few lock-ons can completly shread my influence on an enemy team. Without good enemy Rao I had over 100 kills on B64. With good Raos or Wildcat (which is super strong if you are good tankist and force helis into bad situations) my kills drop to 30ish to 40ish and that is something I can almost always achive as an infantry player. However, while Rao is in a rly good spot, lock ons should get a serious rework. Let me state that I too hate camping helis who fly too high up and just drop bombs or spam 50mm on Hind. These are bad players who contribute nothing to attacking team and ruin games for defending team.MOST IMPORTANT THING in this post is ruining that playstyle. Lock-ons should get buffed by allowing them to go to the limit of the skybox.But, they should also not work up until the height of maybe 15 meters. This way you are forcing heli pilots to choose between 2 things. Either get destroyed by lock ons and Rao(who should also be able to hack high altitude stealth helis (not planes or other helis just stealth mode) or use skill to fly low to the ground and try to evade swarms of TV and normal RPGs.This way, you are forcing pilots to stay in Gustav range, while also allowing highly skilled pilots to help their team.Vehicles should require a squad and/or a lot of skill to handle properly. Stealth heli is nothing like that. Last but not least, separte at least planes in their own category. When good plane pilot is around only the best pilots can bearly survive. Thank you if you tried to read all of it, and not just spew hate on vehicle players. Vehicles are integral part of Battlefield and they should be strong in the right hands. However that should take much more skill than it takes now. tldr: -Serious nerf to 30mm: both in splash and cooldown-Buff to height lock-ons can target helis-Buff to Rao being able to hack high altitude transport and stealth-Nerf to lock ons by making them not being able to target rly low flying helis (this forces pilot to either die or be more skillful)-Indirect buff to gustav and tv by forcing pilots to fly lower-Separate airplanes into own category so they can counter other air vehicles My apologies for gramatical mistakes as English is not my primary language 🙂Enjoy playing the game and PTFO.

Guy just did 71-1 on noshahr in the stealth heliCompletely dominated the map.WTH is wrong with EA/DICE.Just take it out until its fixed.

If your objective is to destroy the average infantry player experience on one of the best maps of the franchise, mission accomplished. One would surmise that anyone with the most basic understanding of the current state of the game would know that one stealth helo per map is obscenely overpowered. With that knowledge on board, someone being paid a decent salary decides to make three available per team. Then someone in a management position gives the okay on this design decision. DICE has totally ruined Exodus Conquest for a vast majority of players. I often played Exodus Conq as well as Flashback Conq and both game modes ….WERE… a really nice change of pace. However now Exodus Conq is absolutely terrible with 3 stealth helo per team. The opening two minutes one team gains total air superiority and we end up seeing one team with no air and the other team with 3 stealth helos plus Hind/Condors the entire rest of the match. The ensuing slaughter is like nothing seen in any Battlefield game. It’s enraging for the team being farmed and is yet another 2042 detractor that’s bleeding players. The classic maps are infinitely more enjoyable with classic vehicle types and numbers. All we need are the Specialists on the classic Conquest maps for a nice variety. Any classic map with 2042 aircraft is utterly ruined. If it’s not glaringly obvious, the 2042 vehicle types and vehicle numbers formula since launch has been, by any quantifiable measurement, a historic failure. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. It’s not working.

@Zhukov211 DICE: We playtest our changes first.Also DICE: Here's a change that doesn't appear to have gone through any playtesting and is designed to make the experience unenjoyable, because we've ignored the months of complaints about overpowered helicopters, especially the stealth helicopter we brilliantly added to the game.*dances off singing You're Welcome*

@lionking7001 yes they are still powerful imho they need to remove the flairs so that there is only one defence mechanism not two

How long before DICE nerfs the new stealth helicopters?

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Anobix
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Reap148 It doesn't help that for a month the defense on breakthrough can't spawn attack vehicles or any air vehicles to help defend at all, so infantry are largely sitting ducks.
sHA4N
Rising Adventurer
4 years ago
yes I think.
Why don't we also move on.Many have already left.
I have also made up my mind to switch to other game.I will wait for this august update.Plenty of bf players says this game is piece of garbage and i agree with them.
sHA4N
Rising Adventurer
4 years ago
RAO alone can not.
We have tried all 4 played with rao,tried to get the chopper with AA missile but after one hit it fly far away.
SunAshe
4 years ago
Good points. But I guess the quick fix they can do now is to lower the max height Heli could get. (In numbers I believe It should be 600 in-game or vary between types of Helis.)
RayD_O1
Hero
4 years ago
@Zhukov211 wrote:
DICE made it possible for each team to spawn three stealth helos on Exodus Conquest maps. THREE… PER TEAM.
Guess what? The whole “we need more vehicles to balance vehicles” logic doesn’t work because inevitably one team quickly gains total air superiority the opening 2 minutes of the match and you have one team with 3 stealth helis plus Hind/Condor farming the other team the entire rest of the match.
The incompetence on DICE’s part is truly stunning.
Are you intentionally trying to drive us away from this game?
3 stealth heli's is just ridiculous and to be honest totally unplayable imho.
RayD_O1
Hero
4 years ago
@Adamonic wrote:
Just when you thought DICE couldn't ruin another experience, they have now ruined classic maps with this ridiculousness.

Leave the Stealth helos for Air Superiority. Take them out of all other game modes.
I remember a time when some vehicles and aircraft were deemed rare. You had to treat them that way because they would take forever to respawn after they were destroyed. They were so important that if they were used to capture a point, you had 1 or 2 people repairing them. If you could take out the other team's armor or helo, you had several minutes of an advantage. Nowadays none of that matters, just look up to the heavens for the HE bombs and kiss your a55 goodbye.
BUT you can RAO!!!
100% this, yeah I spend way too much time looking at the sky these days trying to combat air domination.
As you rightly say the gameplay experience is ruined and they need to sort this asap as it will drive more and more players away the longer this is allowed to go on.
RayD_O1
Hero
4 years ago
@Anobix wrote:
@Reap148It doesn't help that for a month the defense on breakthrough can't spawn attack vehicles or any air vehicles to help defend at all, so infantry are largely sitting ducks.
How are these game breaking issues allowed to linger on, these critical issues should be addressed via a hotfix.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@Adamonic wrote:
If anyone hasn't noticed by now, this game caters to completely noob players. All the pilots going 100+ and 0 in a round are just announcing themselves as the biggest noobs in the game. It takes zero skill to use the Stealth helo. It is so easy it is boring.
Look at the player stats, those with more vehicle kills than infantry kills, probably T1 for the Hind, Stealth helos, and the Bolte. K30 is their top weapon too. There are a lot of them out there.

No offense to the super skilled pilots who are T1 across the board.
With all due respect, even the stealth helicopter does not result in the same K/D no matter the crew.
It takes a decent pilot to judge when to attack and when to pull back, it takes a great pilot to make a complete mockery out of even the Wildcat head on. It also takes a gunner who can land those EMP grenades and not just try to tickle infantry with the gunner seat.
The thing is OP AF and it needs to be easier to take down. But do not think for a moment that people like me who could do 40ish kills with it are on the same level as those who do 120+.
If it became easier to land liz missiles on helicopters, most of the problems around them would be gone quickly
GrizzGolf
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
The stealth helos should have stayed in 128 conquest
RayD_O1
Hero
4 years ago
@GrizzGolf wrote:
The stealth helos should have stayed in 128 conquest
Yeah or better still stayed on the designers drawing board.

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