This guy casually kills 2 condors, 1 apache, and 1 tank in 3 minutes. Won't be long before people start mass complaining about them even though there is only 1 attack vehicle slot now lol. I personally think they're very fun and should be left alone but they do make the Nightbird and Hokum/Apache obsolete.
Wildcat is actually crap against choppers. It's 30mm guns are pretty much useless against stealth (and especially against "transport" helis) if pilot is not flying at the first time. Turret is slow, can't shoot straight up, AA missiles are a joke
@AdamonicLol, sure it is noob machine. It's cool to fly and destroying easy unaware targets lol. But I recall this, you probably have slim to none chances against high level pilot, that's what makes it interesting, being aware, all the time on look and countering enemy air.
I'll go you one better.
Joined late in this match (sigh...that's another sad conversation right there) only to lose and see the enemy Huron pilot had gone 104-0 KD.
Battlefield 2042 - stealth heli OP? 108/0 KD. Yes it is. - YouTube
The real problem is that they see the issue with the Stealth Helicopters to be the strength of the cannons only since that's the nerf they've talked about.
That's not the big issue with the stealth.
The issue is how easy it is to avoid being killed (which leads to being able to make plenty of kills).
If they don't nerf the stealth mechanic itself (by putting a timer on Stealth mode...hint...hint) then the issue will not be resolved by nerfing the cannons.
Kap.
EDIT : terrific. Yet another bunch of threads get "consolidated" together, thereby ruining the entire cohesiveness of the multiple conversations involved.
How about just leaving them separate?
Don't want to see lots of different threads all asking for the same gamebreaking issue to be fixed?
K.
@Adamonic wrote:
@UP_Hawxxeyedon't get me wrong, I use it too. I am not saying everyone is a noob or novice for destroying with it. I am just saying this game is catering to novice players. This is one of those times. I have never flown a helo that is this OP against everyone. I can take out all other aircraft 1v1 and annihilate ground forces without any threat of being shot down. If I die, it was because I was being silly.
Then for them to put it in the game while the other team has no aircraft? It is absurd. No one should be going 40-1 in a match. I have seen pilots have 50 kills in the first sector, especially on maps where the objectives have no cover (most objectives in the game).
Why’s that?
@Adamonic wrote:
@UP_Hawxxeyedon't get me wrong, I use it too. I am not saying everyone is a noob or novice for destroying with it. I am just saying this game is catering to novice players. This is one of those times. I have never flown a helo that is this OP against everyone. I can take out all other aircraft 1v1 and annihilate ground forces without any threat of being shot down. If I die, it was because I was being silly.
Then for them to put it in the game while the other team has no aircraft? It is absurd. No one should be going 40-1 in a match. I have seen pilots have 50 kills in the first sector, especially on maps where the objectives have no cover (most objectives in the game).
40-1 is not unreasonable for a well used vehicle vs a weak team. Some people can do it on foot if they get plenty of revives
The problem is when even a decent team cannot stop one of these.
In some cases it is also due to the map/mode.
Breakthrough is currently bugged to not allow the defenders to get aircraft unless they join the round late. This is an incredibly big issue in terms of team balance. Breakthrough also gives too much of room for aircraft to hide from the ground forces.
@CPT_GASLIGHT I think the wording is poor, that nobody should have these stats. I think what he means was with the addition "so easy".
There are players, who are clearly better then 99% of the community, they will have great stats maybe even a 40:0 or so.
But this is not the topic. What causes this thread, is the desperation fighting these helicopters. You simply have no chance, even if you know what you are doing. Stinger, Rao, Lis, nothing helps, when the pilot is very good. Yes, a very good pilot should have good stats... Because he is very good. But he should not be invincible.
I only play infantry, that is ok for me, there I have most fun. But I tried everything to counter these stealth helicopters, Rao, Lis, Soflam, NTW-50, everything can be counted very easy for the pilot. Rao's hack has a too limited range and through the indicator, he will be very dead after the hack, through the warning, the helicopter will use flares, before the hack is finished.
Lis rockets... Maybe I am not good enough yet, but the helicopters in general are too fast and too agile for this sluggish rocket. If the pilot sees the rocket (and he gets visual indicators though radar), the agility of the helicopter outclasses the rocket very easy.
What is the result and how do the players are reacting to this situation? Nobody is using stinger, nobody is fighting the helicopters, because everybody knows, it is useless. Even when the whole team is anti air, a good pilot can outplay everybody. And that is frustrating. More and more people will stop playing (I am short before this moment, if only the 30mm canon will be nerfed, I have no more desire to play this game further). DICE seems to have no plan balancing the air vehicles. And it just continues, first the little bird, then the condor, now the stealth helicopter, it gets worse and worse. And none of the other helicopters are weak, but there everybody has counter measures, but the stealth helicopter is just game breaking and DICE is too slow to react to this unbalance.
@Captain_Tachi Very well said.Dice has made them invincible and infantry can't do much about it.Only few options left for players like us who like to play infantry is either use tanks n EBAA or leave server ,but i think best option is to stop playing this piece of *^%$$.
@RayD_O1 wrote:
@GrizzGolf wrote:The stealth helos should have stayed in 128 conquest
Yeah or better still stayed on the designers drawing board.
That would have been a better idea
