https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/rb6hw9/a_quick_look_at_map_design_and_map_flow_in_bf2042/I think this video may be short but makes the point. 3 years of development produced this.

Yep, the 2042 maps are depressingly sanitised, a huge step backwards. Especially when you consider the levolution that was central to the hype 6 months ago. If the next maps are the same, I go will back to BF1 and V. That maps were so much better.Why aren't there any civilian NPCs, IMO it would be interesting to have XP penalties for hitting civilians...

@JOGAGATYA All the maps of BF V and BF 1 were more detailed and had more grit and character. The muddy trenches of BF 1 were much more interesting than this.

I kinda got used to the new maps and enjoying the new game but when once in awhile i see BF5 footage, one eye is crying.

2042 maps are so boring it’s untrue, far too clean and samey That comparison video is hilarious, they should hang their heads in shame.

Sanitized is a good description. BF V maps have so much detail. They aren't perfect but man, they could not make 7 GOOD maps in 3 years. This is why i have zero faith in Dice. If the visual Fidelity suffers due to the 128 player count -id like to go back to 64 players. I think most of us venting daily here because 2042 should've been a no brainer. A winner. An easy one. Take the best from BF 3,4 and 1, make it a dark and gritty future. Almost Terminator like. Cities torn apart. Ravaged by war with some bad * beats when going into battle. The last stand off between the US and RU. Heck i wouldn't mind the specialists if everything else was great. But it just isn't. You can tell that hourglass for example, seems to be a BR style map. Everything looks like a "play ground" if you know what i mean. Too clean, too boring, nothing is happening. Really the ONLY map i sorta like is Orbital. But booting up BF 1 and playing man, what a difference in speed, Fidelity and gun play. Tomorrow, Embark - the OG ex Dice guys will be showing off their first game. Im super excited for it. While not BF, these guys KNOW what sup!

Let's compare BF 2042 and BF V maps just for fun shall we?

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SirBobdk
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Trokey66 wrote:
By the Gods!
I remember the constant whinging on here about visibility in BFV being caused by 'too much clutter' on maps, now they are being lauded as fine detail?
Well that's the 'community' for you you.....
Yep, that amazes me too. Well, I guess most people seem to remember things much better than they really were.
DaveTheBrave_USA
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Trokey66I never complained about BFV having too much clutter. Actually several of 2042 maps are more reminiscent of BF 1942 maps from 2001-2002 for their level of detail, and hardware and software was not as sophisticated back then.
trip1ex
4 years ago
bfV vanilla maps sucked.
Also comparing a big desert map to a small destroyed city map is rather pointless.
OF course I guess that is thrown aside in the name of nonsense? Because nonsense fits the narrative. And reality doesn't.
Also graphics don't equal playability.
FlatChat
4 years ago
@trip1ex and @Trokey66
I'm not sure why anyone would have complained about too much clutter on maps in BF1 and BF5. Previous Battlefield maps had plenty of clutter and destruction (and levelution!).
The destruction, debris and atmosphere (graphic elements) helped gameplay IMO providing cover, realism and intrigue, rather than just lining up the ducks...
We need that back in 2042.
trip1ex
4 years ago
@FlatChat wrote:
@trip1ex and @Trokey66
I'm not sure why anyone would have complained about too much clutter on maps in BF1 and BF5. Previous Battlefield maps had plenty of clutter and destruction (and levelution!).
The destruction, debris and atmosphere (graphic elements) helped gameplay IMO providing cover, realism and intrigue, rather than just lining up the ducks...
We need that back in 2042.
Clutter is not the same thing as texture detail. A desert map is not the same thing as a city map.
No one said BF1 wasa cluttered.
You can pick much better comparisons in BF2042 for detail.
Graphics details do not equal playability.
DaveTheBrave_USA
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@trip1ex Actually I think it is interest and moneys worth playability if the desert map in question is Hour Glass for instance, big long sand dunes and empty rectangular buildings with practically no cover or interest. Comparing it to the graphic arts of a destroyed city map is the point.
trip1ex
4 years ago
@DaveTheBrave_USA wrote:
@trip1exActually I think it is interest and moneys worth playability if the desert map in question is Hour Glass for instance, big long sand dunes and empty rectangular buildings with practically no cover or interest. Comparing it to the graphic arts of a destroyed city map is the point.
It's a desert map. YOu have not played a big open desert map in BF before? There's been a few. BF1 had one. BF1942. There's been lots of other bigger more open maps. I think there one in BF2 and BF3. BF4 had one.
It's a pointless comparison to compare the graphical detail on a small city map to a big open desert map.
And graphics don't equal playability. All that graphical detail on that BFV map and it was a meh map. Total where's waldo map. Just hide in a corner and shoot guys that walk by. Run around in circles. I'm not hanging it on my wall. I'm playing it.
Man_iLoveFishing
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@trip1exBut there are rooms with ladder. Or skyscraper big lobby with nothing. I guess city got evacuated well and all that decoration and furniture was taken with.

Once i was impressed in BFV when i was afk. I was proning and couple soldiers run above me. Literally stepped on me. Cause i blended in with a rock.

Look at the detail of buildings inside in bfv for example. Textures, posters on the wall. Those little things.
FlatChat
4 years ago
@trip1ex wrote:
@DaveTheBrave_USA wrote:
@trip1exActually I think it is interest and moneys worth playability if the desert map in question is Hour Glass for instance, big long sand dunes and empty rectangular buildings with practically no cover or interest. Comparing it to the graphic arts of a destroyed city map is the point.
It's a desert map. YOu have not played a big open desert map in BF before? There's been a few. BF1 had one. BF1942. There's been lots of other bigger more open maps. I think there one in BF2 and BF3. BF4 had one.
It's a pointless comparison to compare the graphical detail on a small city map to a big open desert map.
And graphics don't equal playability. All that graphical detail on that BFV map and it was a meh map. Total where's waldo map. Just hide in a corner and shoot guys that walk by. Run around in circles. I'm not hanging it on my wall. I'm playing it.
Hourglass is a city map which has been inundated with sand dunes caused by global climate changes and loss of vegetation in that region.

As such facilities should have a lot more destruction and degradation, including rusted car and truck hulks, which would provide a lot more atmosphere and cover. Tunnels, underground stations etc would also help gameplay and add interest.

It just appears that maps, like other things in 2042, were rushed out the door and lack good game design and attention to detail.

It's about immersion and suspension of disbelief.
-NME-M0710NM4N
4 years ago
Worst maps of any BF. Map designers and anyone who gave the thumbs up to these when completed... should all be fired.