An infantry soldier HAS to have a viable countermeasure against any vehicle and the fact that those damn stealth Helis are untouchable without you having a chance to react is just poor game design. At least make SOFLAMs lock on them even in stealth mode. This would also make the SOFLAM a much more usable tool.And don't argue I could simply shoot the recoilless at them. Hitting those small Helis with a good pilot in them is next to impossible and they don't even die to just one shot.EDIT:I wrote this in anger after playing defense in breakthrough. After a few days I have this to add:I stand by what I said. The stealth helis are broken. I learned that Rao is able to hack them and make their stealth mode break.But after testing it myself I can tell you that it doesn't do sh*t. A good pilot will simply pop the flares and hide somewhere to recharge and return in order to kill your a*s before you can do anything.So, what to do? Making SOFLAM work on the stealth heli in stealth mode is still my suggestion, but I think a nerf of the 30mm canon and the bombs should be added.Everyone in this thread who claims that the helis don't need a massive nerf is afraid their good K/D will suffer because they won't be able to completely abuse it anymore.This has to end. Defense on breakthrough is unplayable with a good enemy pilot.

@9mgebypzbisz The SOFLAM definitely needs a buff. If the Hannibal or Huron Stealth Heli is within a certain range, say "laser designation range", then the SOFLAM should absolutely be able to provide a direct lock on, definitely not at its normal ranges but it should still be possible when the Stealth Heli is closer to the SOFLAM.

It’s quite obvious that DICE has absolutely no idea what they are doing by releasing the stealth helicopters in such a god like state. To even a casual gamer that’s never played Battlefield it would only take a few hours in game to realize that the stealth heli is stupid OP. - strong vs infantry- strong vs vehicles- strong vs aircraft- strong vs Wildcat AA- strong vs shoulder fired AA - has flares and stealth- all of the above in a single set upThis is absolutely absurd.

@SpudBug Since the Soflam manually locks on, you’re physically aiming it after all, it should be able to defeat stealth. MANPADS being defeated by the stealth makes sense, however physically pointing a laser at it and holding it on target should negate the stealth feature.

@ATFGunr wrote:@SpudBugSince the Soflam manually locks on, you’re physically aiming it after all, it should be able to defeat stealth. MANPADS being defeated by the stealth makes sense, however physically pointing a laser at it and holding it on target should negate the stealth feature.This right here. Stealth doesn’t make the damn thing invisible. The weapon locking on is locking on the the laser.

Stealth choppers have enough time to pop flares before Rao's hack goes off, giving the stealth chopper enough time to fly away to cover/out of range while they're hacked. I was just playing with an annoying pilot who would decimate all our air and armor and even with a squad of three of us going after them with Rao and AA, we couldnt manage to kill him. Honestly I think the chopper would be better if the bombs were on the gunner seat instead of the EMP bomb (because why does it need that too on top of everything else) and if it was more sluggish to control in attack mode. its a straight upgrade to the attack chopper and scout choppers both right now.

Make SOFLAM work on stealth Helis even if in stealth mode!

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S3SSioN_SoL
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@9mgebypzbisz The SOFLAM definitely needs a buff. If the Hannibal or Huron Stealth Heli is within a certain range, say "laser designation range", then the SOFLAM should absolutely be able to provide a direct lock on, definitely not at its normal ranges but it should still be possible when the Stealth Heli is closer to the SOFLAM.
Bolvard
3 years ago
@9mgebypzbisz Dice will not change them, they are incompetent to create a proper balance between Air and Infantry.

I noticed that back in bf3, bf4 on certain maps and now with stealth helis.

They just don’t care that the majority has to play infantry and therefore act as cannonfodder.
Zhukov211
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
It’s quite obvious that DICE has absolutely no idea what they are doing by releasing the stealth helicopters in such a god like state.

To even a casual gamer that’s never played Battlefield it would only take a few hours in game to realize that the stealth heli is stupid OP.

- strong vs infantry
- strong vs vehicles
- strong vs aircraft
- strong vs Wildcat AA
- strong vs shoulder fired AA
- has flares and stealth
- all of the above in a single set up
This is absolutely absurd.
spudbug
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@9mgebypzbisz No, this invalidates the stealth mode. It's usefulness is severely limited in stealth mode. A pilot flying around only in stealth isn't doing much to change the match.
SleepyWeasel68
3 years ago
@SpudBugHow so? I mean, how’s he not contributing? Unless they’ve changed something since last weekend, the Heli can still use weapons in stealth right?
spudbug
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@SleepyWeasel68 the pilot can only use bombs which are pretty effective in a small area but have a long reload speed. The gunner can attack with their minigun but it's range is very limited
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@SpudBug Since the Soflam manually locks on, you’re physically aiming it after all, it should be able to defeat stealth. MANPADS being defeated by the stealth makes sense, however physically pointing a laser at it and holding it on target should negate the stealth feature.
SleepyWeasel68
3 years ago
@ATFGunr wrote:
@SpudBugSince the Soflam manually locks on, you’re physically aiming it after all, it should be able to defeat stealth. MANPADS being defeated by the stealth makes sense, however physically pointing a laser at it and holding it on target should negate the stealth feature.
This right here. Stealth doesn’t make the damn thing invisible. The weapon locking on is locking on the the laser.
SleepyWeasel68
3 years ago
@SpudBug wrote:
@SleepyWeasel68the pilot can only use bombs which are pretty effective in a small area but have a long reload speed. The gunner can attack with their minigun but it's range is very limited
He’s dropping enough ordinance to kill me while capping a point.
spudbug
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@SleepyWeasel68 If the soflam worked like bf4 where you had to have line of sight then maybe. But 2042 soflam is dumb and locks onto targets for a while after you look away and allows locking to multiple targets at once