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Zhukov211's avatar
3 years ago

New weapons, Pistol and Shotty, outclassed in every way

Why implement these new weapons if they bring nothing viable to the table?

The new Shotgun is outclassed in every conceivable way by the auto shotty and the new pistol is vastly inferior to the starter pistol/G57. 

The new shotgun’s ammo and attachment options are severely lacking. Performance is lackluster and generic. The reload takes ages and the reload animations cannot be interrupted by pulling the trigger, unlike previous BF games. Why would I ever opt to take this weapon over the auto- shotty? 

The new pistol has some weird, artificial delay when pulling the trigger in burst fire mode. The G57(default pistol) on the other hand fires just fine in burst mode, The G57 kills in 2 bursts at close range(just like the new pistol) and the G57holds 35 rounds(compared to only 20 rounds for the new pistol). There’s absolutely no reason to carry the new pistol. 


Seems this  “content” to be merely “here are two new weaps” for the sake of saying it’s new content. 

6 Replies

  • @Zhukov211 

    So, just for arguments' sake, what would be your alternative?

    If they are too good, people will whine and say they are OP! while you are saying they aren't good enough and are "outclassed" it's a circular firing squad from a game developer's perspective.

    I personally like the variety and challenges that come with mastering new weapons, the only alternative is to make them all behave in the exact same way.

    Which of course would be pointless, tedious, boring and extremely dull.

  • Zhukov211's avatar
    Zhukov211
    3 years ago
    @Ironhead841 “The alternative is to make them all behave in the exact same way”

    Nice try at gaslighting. The various multitudes of weapons from ALL previous BF games beg to disagree and utterly crush that notion.
  • Ironhead841's avatar
    Ironhead841
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @Zhukov211 

    Hardly "gaslighting" my friend, you stated that are all "outclassed" which would imply you want them to be just as good if not better than the default variants of said weapons.

    I then simply pointed out that if they were better than the default weapons people would start whining that they were overpowered just look at how people were flipping out over the Avancys. 

    If they behave roughly the same as the default weapons, then what is the point? As I said I personally like the challenge of mastering different weapons, it can be more difficult for some weapons, it requires you to alter your tactics and playstyle a bit, but I like it.

    So, I ask again what is YOUR alternative?

  • Zhukov211's avatar
    Zhukov211
    3 years ago
    @Ironhead841 I’m not a game developer. It’s not my job to point out alternatives. Each weapon system should have noticeable strengths and weaknesses. The new pistol and shotgun are all weakness with zero strengths.
  • UP_LordPlumber's avatar
    UP_LordPlumber
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Zhukov211 New pistol does have strengths though. It has faster ROF in burst fire without trigger delay like G57 does and higher damager output, but much less ammo per mag to work with.

    The same goes for a new shotgun. It has higher damage per shot compared to 12M auto, but painful reload.

    Railgun is in a league of its own. It's completely unique and has tons of potential for mad plays and turning pilots into a dark red mist if you have a good shot.
  • Zhukov211's avatar
    Zhukov211
    3 years ago

    @UP_LordPlumber

    Try the new pistol out in a controlled environment on burst fire then do the same with the G57. With the new pistol There’s an unmistakable, weird hiccup in the rate of fire where the weapon seemingly bogs down when you spam burst fire. There’s no such hiccup with the G57 while burst firing. Additionally it takes the same number of burst to kill at close and mid range with both pistols. 2 or 3 bursts. Perhaps on paper the new pistol outperforms the G57 but not in reality.

    New shotgun takes the same number of hits to kill as the auto shotgun at all ranges. At least on the test range vs bots.

    Rail gun isn’t mentioned in the title.

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