Many players have hi-end GPU compared with CPUs like 2700x or 3600x and 8700k etc. I am one of them. So will they fix performance for 128 players modes? Because those older and weaker CPUs run fine on 64 players and under modes. I think the next patch should definitely do something about it and for the frame drops that are made on these CPUs the game is almost unplayable in intensive scenes, especially on breakthrough. What do you think? A new official response at least after the acknowledgment of the issue in a previous EA statement?

Historically, DICE has never released any patches which have increased performance. Usually when DICE patches something, performance decreases instead. 64 player modes is probably the only realistic way to increase framerates.What's pushing the CPU so hard is mostly the physics calculations for player model animations. Running, jumping, etc for 128 individual players. That's why performance drops so hard in crowded areas with a lot of players. I remember hearing DICE was going to use GPU acceleration for player model animations in 2042, but I guess that either got scraped or it didn't make much of a difference to CPU performance.After player animations I would guess audio rendering is the 2nd most CPU intensive task in Frostbite. Which is why audio is limited to 20 sound sources.

@Mthjms17The weather effects definitely affects the performance, I noticed it on Orbital too.

It runs way better now on my i5 8400 and I upgraded this week to an i7 10700k and it runs way better on that. Its nice playing at decent framerates

@OskooI_007 I Remember that in Battlefield 4 and 3 and in V regarding operation underground they did releasepatches that increased performance.And now I really need an official answer about that.If they do hear well the community, and because I know that many other players are also wondering and are frustrated about this matter, they must give an official answer to my question.Personally, I demand an answer. I think I am entitled to.Thank you.

@afzSnickelfritz I want them to fix it. I won't buy a 5600/5800 to run stable for 128 players, for just 1 game.If they can't fix it, I want them to tell me that.Just to write me a message or to write to the community." Dear friends, if you want to play 128 players mode with a constant and high for 2022 standards fps rate you have to buy 5600 and 5800 ryzen CPU's or higher and alderlake whatever the intel type is and highter.Or else we fooled you, either accept it, or don't buy our games"

Older CPUs performance on 128 players modes fps drops

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OskooI_007
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
Historically, DICE has never released any patches which have increased performance. Usually when DICE patches something, performance decreases instead. 64 player modes is probably the only realistic way to increase framerates.
What's pushing the CPU so hard is mostly the physics calculations for player model animations. Running, jumping, etc for 128 individual players. That's why performance drops so hard in crowded areas with a lot of players. I remember hearing DICE was going to use GPU acceleration for player model animations in 2042, but I guess that either got scraped or it didn't make much of a difference to CPU performance.
After player animations I would guess audio rendering is the 2nd most CPU intensive task in Frostbite. Which is why audio is limited to 20 sound sources.
V-SynthNinja
New Vanguard
4 years ago
@OskooI_007 I Remember that in Battlefield 4 and 3 and in V regarding operation underground they did release
patches that increased performance.

And now I really need an official answer about that.

If they do hear well the community, and because I know that many other players are also wondering and are frustrated about this matter, they must give an official answer to my question.

Personally, I demand an answer. I think I am entitled to.
Thank you.
afzSnickelfritz
4 years ago
@V-SynthNinja Personally, I think they need to increase max concurrent worker threads to 12, move more of the game workload to the clients and change the server tickrate and client update rate to 60hz.

For example, the parachuted vehicle call-ins appear to be running on the server, with animations being rendered in steps at 45hz, rather than being smooth and continuous motion.

There is also apparently some kind of server/client synchronization going on that affects the overall latency. For example, if I join a game in progress, bypassing the helicopter drop, the first spawn in the game is not synchronized with the server, and movement is noticeably juddered. Subsequent spawns are synchronized and smooth, but the input lag is increased.

This runtime behavior is unlike any other Battlefield I've played, and must be a byproduct of the much larger targeted market for this game. The new game engine is literally being hobbled to allow relatively low end rigs to run it.
cso7777
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@afzSnickelfritzUpping the number of threads and increasing load on the clients, would make the CPU-situation way worse.

Increasing tick-rate would just result in even higher CPU-usage for both clients and servers, making performance even worse.

It seems like people with 6C/12T CPUs (and less) are already struggling. A lot of PC players doesn't have the latest and greatest CPUs (probably the majority).

BF has always had issues with latency. In earlier titles, with 60hz tick-rate, you would sometimes have insta-kills, kills behind corners and weird animations issues (even without high-pingers). Now it has just gotten worse than ever.
Regarding the animations, they are run much lower than "45hz", 45 FPS is still very fluent (tv is shown at 25 fps in Europe). I don't know their "hz" but it seems more like 2 "hz" or something like that...
V-SynthNinja
New Vanguard
4 years ago
@afzSnickelfritz I want them to fix it. I won't buy a 5600/5800 to run stable for 128 players, for just 1 game.
If they can't fix it, I want them to tell me that.

Just to write me a message or to write to the community.

" Dear friends, if you want to play 128 players mode with a constant and high for 2022 standards fps rate you have to buy 5600 and 5800 ryzen CPU's or higher and alderlake whatever the intel type is and highter.

Or else we fooled you, either accept it, or don't buy our games"
afzSnickelfritz
4 years ago
@V-SynthNinja The target framerate for 2042 is obviously 60fps at low settings for low end CPU's, but the real problem is the poor scaling with high end rigs.
emerson1975
4 years ago
I ran this game on an old ryzen 2700 overclocked to 4ghz paired with a 5700xt and it seemed fine?
Doogla
4 years ago
@OskooI_007 wrote:
Historically, DICE has never released any patches which have increased performance. Usually when DICE patches something, performance decreases instead. 64 player modes is probably the only realistic way to increase framerates.
Historically speaking, that’s 100% false. Battlefield 4, 1, and V all had major issues on launch with FPS that were later fixed via patches. Also around the time Battlefield 2 came out, a game called Joint Operations released that played 128 players flawlessly.

If you’re gonna make stuff up to make the game look worse than it is, Reddit is waiting with open arms.
V-SynthNinja
New Vanguard
3 years ago
They really fixed performance in terms of CPU usage and stuttering since this thread.
Now at least the game runs great in my system. I still have the same system specs.
That is great.
The game runs now as smooth as butter for me even in ultra with 128 players!!!!!
Cheers!!!!
Mthjms17
3 years ago
@V-SynthNinjaThe problem is that also on the 64 player modes FPS are not great either, especially when you consider most people will run on low settings with DLSS. BFV or BF1 which looked better and had more details can run at higher FPS at high quality settings...and there was more destruction too 🙂. Also is funny that they improved performance to high end systems and not for low/middle PCs. In my case those dips from 75/85 to 60 are quite hurting my eyes 🙂

As a separate point, I also found that from the start rain effects on certain maps like manifest or the new ORBITAL tank hard on performance. Anyone else experiencing this, or with other weather effects or general in game special effects?