Funny how much bs you can see in this game when you can watch stuff back. Can't really explain this one. His feet are covered and wasnt a headshot.... Plus a dead center hit.

@ugdpy OK so let me try to explain one more time, what I said is I have been renting servers and administrating them since BF1942 and all the way through to BF4, not just BF1942.In some cases, running multiple servers per game and all those servers have had issues once high-ping players attempted to play on them.Hence, we ultimately decided to set ping limitations on all our servers, and ya know what? Problem solved!So, my question to you is why would BF2042 not suffer from the same server stability issues caused by high ping players that have plagued literally every other Battlefield title?

@ugdpy I can tell you from many years of renting servers and administrating them (all the way back to BF1942, just for reference) that "People with a high ping do not impact server stability" is just factually wrong.That's why we used to have ping limiters on our servers.

Second try on short netcode story #2

@ugdpy So how would you explain the fact that in BFV where we still had both the ping of all players in lobby as well as the server location visible, playing would become impossible due to high ping player's entering the server probably out of region?You would immediately feel something was off, rubberbanding would start and games became unplayable. No matter what you call it, lag, netcode, server instability, it is an issue! An issue that probably is still present in BF2042 too.

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YourLocalPIumber
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@doubleome Could totally be me, but it looks like he took off his shield in the second picture. Can't see it behind the flash.
doubleome
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
It’s there still, you see the impact.
But that’s prolly part the issue A happend but I see B
Karen0202
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
Isn't that a grenade on the ground next to him behind the wall?
ugdpy
3 years ago
@doubleome At the risk of repeating myself, that's not how delay works.

That sequence of event happened on your client side application.
That's not how the server that arbitrate hits and the player A and B saw it.
doubleome
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@ugdpyYeah but in this situation since I wasn't involved in this fight shouldn't the server be telling me what happend exactly?

Assuming the server told my client this player killed this player, so his shield should have either been lowered or destroyed. So that means the engine translating this into animation doesn't line up with the actual events?

Doesn't that sound like somewhere stuff get's messed up? Since his shield was still raised.
ugdpy
3 years ago
Not accurately, shots from other people are not accurately represented on your screen and that's been in battlefield since at least BF4 (when I started playing)
To address the broader topic of "netcode" in this game, the current system can be optimized, sure but that will not stop the things you are complaining about here.
The issue with "netcode" in online multiplayer games is that it's an unsolvable problem.
I agree that this generate frustration but I'm not convinced that it is unfair.
If you died behind cover from your point of view, the enemy player did not shoot you behind it, they did it fairly in the open before you jumped behind it.
You would have died to them anyway even if the system had no delays.
A better killcam system explaining what happened would alleviate a lot of frustration IMO
777aTriX
New Vanguard
3 years ago
It's unfair to entertain high ping players when they can negatively impact a fire fight, and server stability.
Seriously
ugdpy
3 years ago
@777aTriXPeople with a high ping do not impact server stability, the issue comes from people with a fluctuating ping, and that's not going to give them an advantage, probably the contrary.

That's an accessibility issue, not everyone has access to a high quality fiber connection.
Ironhead841
Hero
3 years ago
@ugdpy
I can tell you from many years of renting servers and administrating them (all the way back to BF1942, just for reference) that "People with a high ping do not impact server stability" is just factually wrong.
That's why we used to have ping limiters on our servers.
ugdpy
3 years ago
@Ironhead841 Not on that iteration of the game.