Stop removing "attack aircraft slots" or seperate Heli and Jet

Saying we are getting more vehicles but then sliding in reduction in air vehicles to 1 per team isnt making the game, gameplay or enjoyment better.... only worse. Im sure everyone can agree jets and helictopers shouldn't be in same slot category. 1 jet and 1 heli isn't a fun combo and not having much in the skies reduces the gameplay and enjoyment pilots have. Especially for jets as hitting little birds is very very hard unless you have AA missiles and when other side has no jets, its boring waiting for a dogfight if you dont have AGM on which even then you have less to engage and help your team. Maps are so huge that 1 "attack" cannot do that nor is it fun. Its also easier for a good pilot to be only one flying since its only 1 bird. This is what needs to happen

Jets

▪️Need 3-4 jets per match

▪️This makes jets focused on digfighting which greatly improves jet experience and gives bit of that air superiority feeling since that game mode doesn't exist in AOW. This also allows greater map engagements, cover and helps deal with overpowered birds such as little birds or apaches. Especially with newer aircraft being found out. This greatly limits the game. Jets will have alot more fun and focus the ground less since they have to keep tabs on air and enemy jets more often. Something highly lacking and something everyone wished for on battlefield 4 was more than 2 jets at play. This will grow greater if we get other jets besides F35 such as a 2 seat f18, f15 or maybe a A-10 with Lock on jdams if its soflamed

Helicopters

▪️1-2, no more than 3 attack Helicopters with attach Helicopters and scout Helicopters mixed currently

▪️This allows more close range support and increases focus of combat between objs at large scale while limiting issues that arise as only aircraft thats a problem iv seen in community standpoint is little bird.

if you mix in AA stingers, Wildcat guns and AA, PLD targets and aircraft with AA missiles. It means almost no air time and 32-64 people fighting over 1 asset. Where many will sit dead waiting for it to come back and try to get it before its lost again

jets at minimum need to have increased number and presence for every map. Especially when it was talked so highly of before game release.

please give your thoughts below. Those from BF4 im sure can expand on what happens if you only have 1 air asset or if a team is able to nuke 1 air asset again and again. Look at hammerhead when 1 pilot was better than the other

See below for context

We have reduced the total number of Air Attack vehicles that can be active at any time to 1 per team
- This change applies to both Conquest and Breakthrough, and is not active in Battlefield Portal modes, nor on the Classic era or Breakaway maps
- The MV-38 Condor and the Mi-240 Super Hind are also not impacted by this change
In Conquest we have increased the number of in-world vehicles you’ll encounter across all maps

discussion

130 Replies

Ironhead841
Hero
4 years ago
@Airstriker97
Yeah, that's a weird move I gotta say and I am no pilot...like at all...unless you're looking to lawn-dart all your air assets then I'm your man.
In previous BF titles (with only 64 players per match) there was considerably more air assets, armor, AA, boats etc. etc.
Almost every decision seems to be made to get farther away from what made a BF game and make it more like some COD bastardization.
edgecrusherO0
4 years ago
@Airstriker97 Honestly, at this point I don't think they have the foggiest clue how to handle vehicles. It's just musical chairs, with vehicles moving categories and vehicle counts changing frequently, with the odd tweaks to specific vehicles (though apparently not the Condor/Hind yet).

Really feels like the entire vehicle system needs to be rebuilt from scratch to better fit in with the game, but given all the other work that needs to be done that hasn't begun (updates to other maps, the specialist system etc.) somehow I don't think this is ever going to be remotely in the cards.

So we'll just have vehicle musical chairs throughout 2042 and hope that DICE doesn't outsource vehicle development to an external studio with the next BF title. Because it feels like it was made in isolation by an outside studio who didn't share the same vision for the game that DICE did.
Assault
4 years ago
@Airstriker97 Wtf are dice actually doing reducing attack vehicles to 1 and still keeping 2 op transports per team
UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R
4 years ago
@Airstriker973-4 jets per match?! Lol don't be silly, no need for 3-4 jets spawn-camping vehicles every match.

2-3 attack air vehicles?! Lol don't be silly, that was already the game the past several months - DICE reducing attack air vehicles to 1 per team is an unexpected surprise to be sure, but a welcome and balanced one. Scrubby air spam is by far the worst thing in the game.

Next step is to further balance Condor / Hind.
Assault
4 years ago
@UNL1M1T3D_P0W3RI can tell you’ve never played a battlefield game before this one. Go back to cod with your braindead comment
Airstriker97
Rising Hotshot
4 years ago
@UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R Air spam has never been a issue. Even on the most air asset heavy maps in Battlefield 4. AA tanks easily kill 99% of pilots and for a 32 man team. Most you got was 1 fighter, 1 attack, Transport, 2 vipers. Unless you played air superiority which is all air assets only. Fighters barely attack helictopers as it is in 2042. Jets also cant spawn camp when spawns are huge and easy to counter as well
Airstriker97
Rising Hotshot
4 years ago
You read my mind lol
Airstriker97
Rising Hotshot
4 years ago
@Assault You read my mind lol
Airstriker97
Rising Hotshot
4 years ago
@edgecrusherO0 Transports I.E osprey/hind and little bird were the big issues. Nobody in feedback complains about jets and attack helictopers get some hate. But they are only strong in hard core. Jet jets get the bad end of the stick with each update. Why would you even put helis and jets together
thepuppetmaster
4 years ago
@Airstriker97 I'm with you bro! I've been complaining about these vehicle reductions since update 4.0. I posted a topic about it "128 conquest, AOW experience, and vehicle gameplay ruined" In my topic i posted youtube videos and screenshots about the issues from these horrible changes to vehicles. The reduction and balancing and posted a solution. Please comment on my topic to bring it to top of list for DICE to OPEN their eyes! Bottom line they advertised the game as AOW combined arms experience and completely change the game. They scammed the players that enjoyed what battlefield is all about. The issue was the maps and lack of cover, not vehicle count..