The more I find out about 2042 the less Battlefield it sounds like

@TankerFlanker seem for me. This game is getting more and more like COD with every news they provide. The specialist Thing has killed all my expectations.  

The specialist system is a big step backward. I also was hoping for a more wholesome classic BF game . The story line is more befitting of 2142 than 2042. Tying a gadget to a character removes choice we had in previous BF games. Giving a gadget to a hero only incentivizes people to spend money. Its corporate garbage. This game has lost touch with core fans.

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@TankerFlanker wrote:

I know I'm not the only one, I will be playing the open beta still of course and I can't wait for that. And I hope it feels just like BF3/BF4, I know a lot of people like BFV but I personally hope this will not turn out be BFV 2.0 I wanted Battlefield to return to it's roots and it's seeming less likely that it's doing that from new info I'm finding out about it.

I am still hyped for it, but a lot of stuff sounds like they're chasing the CoD fan base and the one Battlefield has could not be more different.

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Agreed @TankerFlanker ,

Some of the latest add-ons from EA Marketing have been a bit murky at best...

Like, why did they simply not just allow players to decide the crossplay filtering themselves?  It shouldn't just have been all in or nothing at all.

If we on PS5 wanted/desired to play together with friends on Xbox, but not with PC players, then why shouldn't we have that option available to do so?

Now they confirmed that we do not...

And for the licensing model and the specialists, why have they not yet come out clear on this?  Is it really pay-to-win and we need to buy all 4 full seasons to get all the 16 specialists and all their perks/gadgets?  COD for sure and the mix of gadgets, as we have like no classes anymore, more like a special ability...  The winning team in the past was the ones better in picking the most optimal classes and mix of classes for the team at certain points in the gameplay.  Now all players will flock to the specialist and loadout that is the most OP combination, just like in COD and WarZone with limited variation.  The soldier classes is actually for me one of the most important features in the past games and what makes Battlefield stand out versus COD and others!

And yes, battlefield is famous for the gameplay levolution.  But I am not buying this game because of the tornado animation.  Sure it will be fun the first 10 times to be sucked up and into wearing your wingsuit.  But its sure as hell not like silly annoying sandstorms and game destroying tornados are going to make us sit in awe 6 months from now, when we see them in every single round we play.  And they totally tear everything apart and its random who will come out as winner after the turmoil...  That is not a fun part, as if its game destroying.  Any levolution should add something special strategically for us to play with/decide on to do or not.  Like in Shanghai map, should we take down the skyscraper as the enemy team appear to dominate us there?!   (great really!   ...though then EA left the map near unplayable for many after that event, as the dust kept flowing in the air for the reminder of the match...   not so cool that part as not needed...more an annoyance than adding to the game fun)

Why didnt EA allow us to filter if we want to play in the game with or without the AI bots?

The functionality for the bots is there.  Its technically quite simple to enable/disable a function you already have in the 'full version', so why not allow us that freedom and personal choice?

I dont really care much about how many bots i shoot down.  I care about the other real people players that I play with or against in the game.

Battlefield is supposed to be the true sandbox experience and not like lining up for a tasteless repetitive pre-cooked dinner...

Indeed, you're not alone. It sounds more and more like a non-Battlefield game to me. Especially due to these 'specialistst/elite/p2w characters', we're not a bunch a mic-screaming-rgb-kids, so just don't... come on now. I don't mind seeing revamped maps though, they did this all the time, but it isn't something 'special' to get hyped about.

@TankerFlankerI guess that depends on what "return to it's roots" means for you?

I had no real issues with BFV's troopers, other than the ridiculous rolling around on the ground screaming for a medic. DICE, can we please not waste resources on that kind of stuff? I get they think its immersive, but it has the exact opposite effect for me.

Back on topic, to me BFV totally missed the mark on:
- vehicle warfare and the overall chaos it brings
- map design. Not a single map in BFV is in the "instant classic" class like in past games. Compare that to BF3 with Metro, Damavand Peak, and Caspian Border right out of the gate. BF4 with Siege of Shanghai, Locker, Golmud Railway, and Paracel Storm. Not even getting into the DLC yet for those games and it's a no contest lol.

@CyberDymeMan I usually always agree completely with what you say especially this part

"Like, why did they simply not just allow players to decide the crossplay filtering themselves? It shouldn't just have been all in or nothing at all.

If we on PS5 wanted/desired to play together with friends on Xbox, but not with PC players, then why shouldn't we have that option available to do so?

Now they confirmed that we do not"

I think it's very dumb it's not an option there is a few Xbox players I would like to play with, but I know they damn well don't want to play with PC players either like myself, there SHOULD and NEEDS to be a consoles only option without PC because I and many others I know will definitely choose that option. I have no idea why DICE would cater to the player base that will for sure cause problems for the consoles player base like you said for Apex and Warzone.

And yeah I'm sure there will be a specialist meta, as I saw someone else say everyone will be an assault with a wingsuit or grappling hook, and vehicles will be destroyed instantaneously probably as well.

We do know that everything game play related is free for everyone so specialists will not be pay to win.

Metas have always existed so new ones with specialists will be nothing new.

Whilst there are some 'concerns, until we play the beta, they are purely speculative though. I just hope it isn't another BFV hardcore lite game. 

Apparant lack of console only crossplay is annoying though......