By this point I expected at least a few topics with people having good or bad words about the new gameplay assets outside of the Exposure map itself.The Liz launcher is an interesting marmite because depending on how well one can use it, it either just adds some noise in the map or becomes the terror of all mechanized assets.The new stealth helicopters are really exciting from the pilot PoV and are possibly making both the old attack heli and the Nightbird obsolete since they are both of these combined, they also destroy the Condor/Hind with both seats used.Thanks to the 1 slot per team I did not had a good chance to gauge their weaknesses yet, but they seem to get forced out of stealth mode with parts damageI expect the people who hated being bombed by planes in BF1/BFV to at some point start yelling "bloody murder" thoughIt is probably too soon for the other stuff thanks to the BP grind I guess.

@Adamonic wrote:@TTZ_Dipsy I think her cooldown is a little too long. You can sit there in a tank and repair as fast as her cooldown thus making her pretty weak against a tank. I feel similar about the cooldown @Adamonic, it does feel a tad too long. Don't think it'd be too bad if it was sped up a tiny bit. Edit:

@AngrySquid270 wrote:Haven't had a chance to play the new content yet and probably won't for a few more days. But I'm really curious how the TV missile has changed the vehicle balance.My biggest pain point with vehicles were the unkillable Little Bird mains. Is the TV missile a practical option against experienced Little Bird mains?Does the TV missile receive any benefit from a SOFLAM lock?I assume you can carry the TV Missile + M5 launcher at the same time? What's the 'reload' situation for the TV missile? How does its damage compare to the M5?How exactly does the stealth mechanics work? Does it prevent lock-ons from stingers? What about SOFLAM locks? Does transitioning to stealth counter stingers that are already in-flight? Do stealth helis also get flares?Not really seen many little birds around to test, the hind and the condor can shoot down the missiles if their gunners is on point. I am guessing shooting down the missile will be an issue for the littlebird since it basically have to turn into the missile to do it.Other then showing a vehicle behind a hill i don't think a soflam does anything for the TV missile. Her passive ability shows damaged vehicles so she already have a psudo wallhack on vehicles.You cannot use the M5 or AA luncher while playing Lis and the reload time seems longer. You can't reload while flying the missile so the TTK is much lower then the M5.The most annoying thing so far is people sitting far into their spawn and use the missile to kill infantry. It's the Casper C5 drone 2.0.No idea about stealth.

Lis really needs more rockets; they run out so fast and take forever (imo) to replenish. I understand there needs to be some semblence of balance but I can have more rockets that do more damage with literally any other specialist, not to mention Angel can have an unlimited supply

@TTZ_Dipsy I think her cooldown is a little too long. You can sit there in a tank and repair as fast as her cooldown thus making her pretty weak against a tank.

Haven't had a chance to play the new content yet and probably won't for a few more days. But I'm really curious how the TV missile has changed the vehicle balance.My biggest pain point with vehicles were the unkillable Little Bird mains. Is the TV missile a practical option against experienced Little Bird mains?Does the TV missile receive any benefit from a SOFLAM lock?I assume you can carry the TV Missile + M5 launcher at the same time? What's the 'reload' situation for the TV missile? How does its damage compare to the M5?How exactly does the stealth mechanics work? Does it prevent lock-ons from stingers? What about SOFLAM locks? Does transitioning to stealth counter stingers that are already in-flight? Do stealth helis also get flares?

Unusually little talk about any of the new specialist/gadgets/vehicles/guns?

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AngrySquid270
4 years ago
Haven't had a chance to play the new content yet and probably won't for a few more days.
But I'm really curious how the TV missile has changed the vehicle balance.
My biggest pain point with vehicles were the unkillable Little Bird mains.
Is the TV missile a practical option against experienced Little Bird mains?
Does the TV missile receive any benefit from a SOFLAM lock?
I assume you can carry the TV Missile + M5 launcher at the same time? What's the 'reload' situation for the TV missile? How does its damage compare to the M5?
How exactly does the stealth mechanics work? Does it prevent lock-ons from stingers? What about SOFLAM locks? Does transitioning to stealth counter stingers that are already in-flight? Do stealth helis also get flares?
Pantleon
4 years ago
@AngrySquid270 wrote:
Haven't had a chance to play the new content yet and probably won't for a few more days.
But I'm really curious how the TV missile has changed the vehicle balance.
My biggest pain point with vehicles were the unkillable Little Bird mains.
Is the TV missile a practical option against experienced Little Bird mains?
Does the TV missile receive any benefit from a SOFLAM lock?
I assume you can carry the TV Missile + M5 launcher at the same time? What's the 'reload' situation for the TV missile? How does its damage compare to the M5?
How exactly does the stealth mechanics work? Does it prevent lock-ons from stingers? What about SOFLAM locks? Does transitioning to stealth counter stingers that are already in-flight? Do stealth helis also get flares?
Not really seen many little birds around to test, the hind and the condor can shoot down the missiles if their gunners is on point. I am guessing shooting down the missile will be an issue for the littlebird since it basically have to turn into the missile to do it.
Other then showing a vehicle behind a hill i don't think a soflam does anything for the TV missile. Her passive ability shows damaged vehicles so she already have a psudo wallhack on vehicles.
You cannot use the M5 or AA luncher while playing Lis and the reload time seems longer. You can't reload while flying the missile so the TTK is much lower then the M5.
The most annoying thing so far is people sitting far into their spawn and use the missile to kill infantry. It's the Casper C5 drone 2.0.
No idea about stealth.
AngrySquid270
4 years ago
Good info. Surprising to hear the anti-vehicle specialist receives no benefit from SOFLAM'ed targets.
Based on what I'm hearing I'd expect much fewer M5's and stingers on the Battlefield. (People with an anti-vehicle mindset are likely running Lis). Uncoordinated SOFLAM use might have gone from being pretty iffy to a waste of time with less people able to take advantage of it.
TTZ_Dipsy
Hero+
4 years ago
I've gotten a few 5+ multi-kills with Lis but ultimately it just comes down to luck because the rockets do pitiful damage and have like 0 splash - Anghel is still #1 in my books.

Haven't gotten a chance to test out the new whirlybirds because people keep taking them lol
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@AngrySquid270 wrote:
Good info. Surprising to hear the anti-vehicle specialist receives no benefit from SOFLAM'ed targets.
Based on what I'm hearing I'd expect much fewer M5's and stingers on the Battlefield. (People with an anti-vehicle mindset are likely running Lis). Uncoordinated SOFLAM use might have gone from being pretty iffy to a waste of time with less people able to take advantage of it.
According to this video, Liz and her rocket was specifically designed to counterbalance the stealth helicopters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z06i7rilDlk
ElliotLH
Hero+
4 years ago
I'm really enjoying the BSV-M now that I've unlocked it. I burn through ammo really quickly with it, mostly because of my bad aim, but it fun to use. I guess it's like a modern day Commando Carbine from BFV.
TTZ_Dipsy
Hero+
4 years ago
Lis really needs more rockets; they run out so fast and take forever (imo) to replenish. I understand there needs to be some semblence of balance but I can have more rockets that do more damage with literally any other specialist, not to mention Angel can have an unlimited supply
Adamonic
Legend
4 years ago
@TTZ_Dipsy I think her cooldown is a little too long. You can sit there in a tank and repair as fast as her cooldown thus making her pretty weak against a tank.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@AdamonicI think the idea is that she is not a single player in a duel vs a tank.
In practice, the poor tanks is eating TGMs from many Liz players. Almost as if it is the Mine mine mine seagulls from Finding nemo
ElliotLH
Hero+
4 years ago
@Adamonic wrote:
@TTZ_Dipsy I think her cooldown is a little too long. You can sit there in a tank and repair as fast as her cooldown thus making her pretty weak against a tank.

I feel similar about the cooldown @Adamonic, it does feel a tad too long. Don't think it'd be too bad if it was sped up a tiny bit.

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