I really don't understand why people are having such an issue with this new system. Like ya, I would prefer the old class system but I don't see specialists as that big of an issue.For me though, its more of a lore thing than a gameplay thing (the feeling of being part of a bigger cause rather than fighting for yourself).The way I see it, the only thing gameplay wise that changed is that they've removed how weapons and gadgets are locked to specific classes.If we're being realistic, all the specialist system does is add a specific name and character skin associated with what you choose in one of your gadget slots and as long as we don't start getting like Rambo or furry skins, I don't see any real major issues with that....It would be like if they made it so in BF4 when you selected the defib, you would get a skin that looks more uniquely like a medic.... or if you brought an SUAV or MAV, you would get the skin of like an FPV military drone pilot.Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from everything I've seen about the game so far, this new system doesn't have that big of an effect...

@Neovisi0n 128 players and you have 50 Webster McCay's grappling around and 60 Maria Falck's reviving. This breaks immersion for other players as well as your own. It's going to be a meme if they keep these named specialists. They should make them more customizable and have generic class type names for the player to fill their own identity, not first name and surnames. Players want the realistic roleplaying opportunity to immerse themselves in this world. Thesese classes doesn't really add anything to the player, but it takes away more of the players identity on the battlefield and it doesnt create a needed space for the player to roleplay as themselves, but rather pushes them off to the sideline.

Weapons are the only thing unlocked across all specialists. Gadget wise specialists still fall into specific class categories so gadgets are still limited to a class. All the complaints are completely cosmetic. People want gender choice and nameless soldiers instead of pre-made characters with a back story. Simple as that.

@Ingeniekey So 30 assaults v 25 medics (All generic clones) didn't break immersion in bf1 or any game previous to bfv? The whole name thing is just marketing rubbish. Whether the specialist system works won't be because they have names

@WinterbornGuard wrote:Weapons are the only thing unlocked across all specialists. Gadget wise specialists still fall into specific class categories so gadgets are still limited to a class. All the complaints are completely cosmetic. People want gender choice and nameless soldiers instead of pre-made characters with a back story. Simple as that.I can safely say that having played since Bad Company, I have never chosen or avoided a class based solely on character appearance.This all just seems like a typical pre release 'community' storm in a tea cup.....

But the people in the previous games were generic soldiers. They wore a standard military uniform. We didn't know their name, history, and personality. It creates more immersion to see 20 Joe Nobodies than 20 BigMan ActionHeros. BigMan ActionHeros also just make the game feel more like Apex or Fortnite

Why is everyone complaining so much about the new specialist system?

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WinterbornGuard
5 years ago
Weapons are the only thing unlocked across all specialists. Gadget wise specialists still fall into specific class categories so gadgets are still limited to a class. All the complaints are completely cosmetic. People want gender choice and nameless soldiers instead of pre-made characters with a back story. Simple as that.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@WinterbornGuard wrote:
Weapons are the only thing unlocked across all specialists. Gadget wise specialists still fall into specific class categories so gadgets are still limited to a class. All the complaints are completely cosmetic. People want gender choice and nameless soldiers instead of pre-made characters with a back story. Simple as that.
I can safely say that having played since Bad Company, I have never chosen or avoided a class based solely on character appearance.
This all just seems like a typical pre release 'community' storm in a tea cup.....
Neovisi0n
5 years ago
@WinterbornGuard Ah I see, so its the same issue I have with it, just some people are going to go as far as refusing to buy the game due to it....
Also with the gadget thing, as far as i've understood so far, generic gadgets are also going to be able to be used in any loadout while the character you choose will dictate your other gadget and your perceived "class"
WinterbornGuard
5 years ago
@Neovisi0n will find out Sunday. But from the few videos I watched of people who were at the press event, guns are the only class agnostic element to loadouts.
Ingeniekey
5 years ago
@Neovisi0n 128 players and you have 50 Webster McCay's grappling around and 60 Maria Falck's reviving. This breaks immersion for other players as well as your own. It's going to be a meme if they keep these named specialists. They should make them more customizable and have generic class type names for the player to fill their own identity, not first name and surnames. Players want the realistic roleplaying opportunity to immerse themselves in this world. Thesese classes doesn't really add anything to the player, but it takes away more of the players identity on the battlefield and it doesnt create a needed space for the player to roleplay as themselves, but rather pushes them off to the sideline.
Neovisi0n
5 years ago
@WinterbornGuard lol, from the same videos I got that your second gadget is also a generic loadout item.
Neovisi0n
5 years ago
@Ingeniekeyso why is that different from 64 players all using the defib in bf4?
Also, If you watch the trailer carefully, you can see the same characters in the same frame but looking completely different, which means even within each specialist, youll have lots of options for what you look like.
Though I get the feeling of playing as yourself vs playing a specific character. Though playing games like modern warfare, I never really got a detached feeling.
Ingeniekey
5 years ago
@Neovisi0n Its different because you are able to roleplay as yourself behind the helmet and goggles. You can pretend in your mind that this is you. Soldiers have the same uniform, but the problem is when the characters have the same facial features and first name and surnames making them replicas of eachother. Thats the problem. The problem of creating replicas. Same uniform and helmet=ok. Same face, name and identity=Not ok.
ninjapenquinuk
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Ingeniekey So 30 assaults v 25 medics (All generic clones) didn't break immersion in bf1 or any game previous to bfv? The whole name thing is just marketing rubbish. Whether the specialist system works won't be because they have names
Bluehydrax
5 years ago
I did get a detached feeling. felt playing a certain hero as in like apex. I personally like better the feeling of being the Unknown soldier on the field. would have been nice with a little but limited customization so you stand a little bit out in your squad.

This hero solution doesn't work for BF for me.