Why promote a Custom Portal Game Mode

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@DominickB3 wrote:
@VBALL_MVPWhat player base? The game has already lost like 70 percent of it. Besides it's not that hard to unlock attachments. And it's more of a balance issue in the game if the higher unlock guns are much better than the initial guns.

I am complaining because I paid for the game the same as everyone else. Why should my progression be limited in the official AoW mode just because some people decided to farm?

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Well you can always play the normal game where you can progress properly.

Lost 70% of the player base?  Based on what facts?  Steam?  Just remember Steam only represents a portion of the player base, unless you have the console numbers (that no one else has) that number is just made up.  

There are other ways to level up, allowing people to farm and boost just leads to other complaints of unfairness do to exploits or people complaining they maxed out already and there is no more content.  So what do you say to those?  Too bad for them?  If so basically you are saying "what matters is what is only good for me".

There are other ways to progress, if you choose to do them.

@VBALL_MVPAs of right now, the only way to progress in this game is to play the official AoW multiplayer or featured portal playlists.

You can't play solo/co-op and get full progression even in the official game mode. You can't progress weapons or vehicles or operators at all in custom portal mode including the one posted by the official battlefield twitter.

I just don't understand why you are so against people getting xp just for playing the game. Yeah they shouldn't allow xp farming, so come up with restrictions based on things like AI Difficulty and health modifiers. It's things the community has suggested from day 1 that they just ignore and instead handcuff and destroy a whole game mode because of it.

We can safely assume the player drop on steam lines up with the player drop across all platforms. The player numbers are much higher than just the steam numbers, but the percentages most likely are the same. 

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@DominickB3 wrote:

I just don't understand why you are so against people getting xp just for playing the game. Yeah they shouldn't allow xp farming, so come up with restrictions

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Thats what they did, they put a cap on how much XP you can earn in a given time.  It is not that you can't earn any, its just cap per minute.

Also you can't assume that Steam numbers are the same elsewhere, BF1 and BF4 are proof that console population stayed more consistent while PC dropped.

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@DominickB3 wrote:
@VBALL_MVPThe xp cap per minute is a joke. The progression stopping after unlocking attachments in solo/co-op is a joke. You can't get ribbons. You can't unlock T1. Yeah you can get a very limited amount of xp, but it's about 1/3 or less of what you'd get over the same amount of time in an AoW game. Hell I'm even okay with keeping the xp cap per minute, but just enable ribbons and weapon progression fully.

Most people that play against the AI aren't doing it to unlock things to brag about. We just don't want to play the buggy mess that multiplayer is. The co-op mode with full progression revived Battlefront 2. I don't understand why Dice decided to nerf the co-op mode in this game so much compared to that.

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You justification doesn't really hold weight.  You can still play co-op, you can still get weapon attachments and progress your guns, heck you can still progress....what is getting to you is that you can't get an abundance of XP playing other versions of the game.  Right now it is not "fast" enough for you and that's your opinion.  But again the people who broke it wasn't DICE it was all the people who exploited the situation.

Let's be honest, you like co-op cause you can play against easy AI and go on a rampage getting high kill streaks and guaranteed wins, why should one who plays an easy mode get equally rewarded to someone who plays an more challenging mode?  You may not like the current situation, but it is a decent middle ground for being able to play a easy kill mode. 

Back in BF4 custom modes didn't give you any progression, so here at least you are getting something.

@VBALL_MVPI'm done arguing with you on this one. You clearly don't understand where I am coming from. It's not about whether it's fast enough. The xp is irrelevant to what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Mastery Unlocks and Ribbons. Two things you just can't get playing half of the game modes available in the game. They didn't have a single player campaign but advertised we would get the same experience playing single player as those that play multiplayer.

I never once said I want easy kills and progression. I just want the regular progression turned on. For those of us that want to play solo/co-op we've even suggested increasing the number of kills needed, limiting it based on the AI diffuculty, and many other things to help you precious PvP players hold so tightly onto your superiority. There's no reason why someone who only plays PvE should not be able to unlock the same things as PvP players. They advertised the game strongly hinting that this was the case. There's a nice long thread about it.

I like co-op because I can play a relaxed game with my friends on a game mode that runs extremely smoothly. I don't have to worry about cross-play, or anything else. I can play the game at my own pace. Why do you think that anyone that plays Solo/Co-op just wants easy kills and fast unlocks?

And BF4 is irrelevant. They didn't release BF4 giving full experience then take it away. They didn't advertise as allowing you to play and unlock things outside of the PvP mode. 

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@DominickB3 wrote:

@VBALL_MVPI'm done arguing with you on this one. You clearly don't understand where I am coming from. It's not about whether it's fast enough. The xp is irrelevant to what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Mastery Unlocks and Ribbons. Two things you just can't get playing half of the game modes available in the game. They didn't have a single player campaign but advertised we would get the same experience playing single player as those that play multiplayer.

I never once said I want easy kills and progression. I just want the regular progression turned on. For those of us that want to play solo/co-op we've even suggested increasing the number of kills needed, limiting it based on the AI diffuculty, and many other things to help you precious PvP players hold so tightly onto your superiority. There's no reason why someone who only plays PvE should not be able to unlock the same things as PvP players. They advertised the game strongly hinting that this was the case. There's a nice long thread about it.

I like co-op because I can play a relaxed game with my friends on a game mode that runs extremely smoothly. I don't have to worry about cross-play, or anything else. I can play the game at my own pace. Why do you think that anyone that plays Solo/Co-op just wants easy kills and fast unlocks?

And BF4 is irrelevant. They didn't release BF4 giving full experience then take it away. They didn't advertise as allowing you to play and unlock things outside of the PvP mode. 

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There are plenty of reasons to not make it equal as I said why should someone get same unlocks playing something easier?  The could have stayed the course from their previous titles and not allowed anything but they gave something.  

Why do I think that anyone that plays Solo/Co-op just wants easy kills and fast unlocks?  Because that is what happened any why they had to put a cap and limit.  You want ribbons you have to play by their rules.  Yes you paid for a game, but that doesn't entitle you to dictate how it works, basically you bought a membership to play their creation.  You can choose to play by the rules they put in, or not.  They tried to accommodate people who didn't want to play the multiplayer game by giving this feature, unfortunately it took a group to collectively abuse it to ruin it for everyone else. 

I said it once and I will say it again, you want to be mad, be mad at the people who abused the system and ruined it for you....not the creators who had to put extra rules in their game to prevent people from doing something that was not intended to happen.

@VBALL_MVP  So odd to me that you would blame the users when they were using it as intended. Ripple Effect claimed they had measures in place to prevent XP farms, but clearly that wasn't the case. Now people have to deal with the consequences of that, not that people used the system. 

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@DominickB3 wrote:

Am I the only one who finds it tone deaf to promote a new community portal mode on Fridays? I mean you can't even progress anything and there's still an xp cap on portal mode at this point. They haven't given any updates on a return or progression or full xp to the mode, so why keep trying to push people into it. 

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1479484585247399954?s=20  

Edit to be more clear:

This is a custom portal game that they give the code for so it doesn't give the same progression as the featured portal modes. 

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That's because they have a large team behind the game.  

It's not one guy overseeing everything.  

And obviously they had to put in the xp restriction in portal because of player abuse.  IF they didn't do anything then people would complain about that as well.  And then complain they unlocked everything already.  Can't win as DICE here on the anonymous internets.