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@SF-TebagginsNo in it's core Battlefield is not a competitive game, if there are tournaments then it's up to them to set the rules. Simple as that.
Input based matchmaking is allready a thing in several games as Warzone and Halo where you also have the fredom yourself to limit matchmaking to the same input method as yourself or matchmake with all. Playstation can also use mouse and keyboard, it's up to the game developer. Halo also has icons for input usage on the scoreboard so you know what input devices People are using.
Of course other hardware than just controler gives you advantages. For example ultra wides gives you I wider field of view than other players thats why I use one.And by the way you are putting it, if you use input devices the game does not allow it's cheating, but what if it allows it, it's not cheating anymore? Its the developers choice and if they put it there it's not cheating.
- UP_Hawxxeye4 years agoLegend
@Blackidus wrote:@SF-TebagginsNo in it's core Battlefield is not a competitive game, if there are tournaments then it's up to them to set the rules. Simple as that.
Input based matchmaking is allready a thing in several games as Warzone and Halo where you also have the fredom yourself to limit matchmaking to the same input method as yourself or matchmake with all. Playstation can also use mouse and keyboard, it's up to the game developer. Halo also has icons for input usage on the scoreboard so you know what input devices People are using.
Of course other hardware than just controler gives you advantages. For example ultra wides gives you I wider field of view than other players thats why I use one.And by the way you are putting it, if you use input devices the game does not allow it's cheating, but what if it allows it, it's not cheating anymore? Its the developers choice and if they put it there it's not cheating.
and even if they chose not to support it, there will be those third party semi-cheat devices that support it.
The best way to control a situation is to keep it legal and regulated.
Serious question, not being a d*
If someone hates/severely dislikes using a controller for gaming.....why even have a console?
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a pc to roll games if using a keyboard and mouse are a must have?
- OskooI_0074 years agoSeasoned Ace
@SOCOMDEATHDEALR Because PC is overrun with cheaters. That's why I'm switching from PC to PlayStation 5 and I'm taking my mouse with me.
@OskooI_007 wrote:@SOCOMDEATHDEALR Because PC is overrun with cheaters. That's why I'm switching from PC to PlayStation 5 and I'm taking my mouse with me.
Fair enough 🍻
@SOCOMDEATHDEALR That above and PC gaming can be quite expensive these days when you add everything up. And I mean everything. PC, decent mouse and keyboard, headset, monitor, chair, desk. Consoles are still the cheaper alternative.
@Blackidus Battlefield is a competitive game and is defiantly not a sandbox game like you mentioned before lol. A sandbox game are games like arma, Minecraft, even gta is a sandbox game. Battlefield has set objectives that need to be achieved in a set manor to win a game, and that goes for pretty much all game modes.
Input based matchmaking is worse. You're now pairing PC players using a controller with in the majority of cases a huge hardware advantage up against console players. These PC players will have an overall smoother game, higher frame rates by sometimes 100 fps, less latency, and in some cases less ping. Try and explain how that is a solution to a problem. Jackfrags also done a video(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJHHbC6O7DU) on this showing the massive aim assist that you gain if you are a PC player using a controller.
Sure you can argue that ultra wides also give a similar advantage but again, we are talking specifically about input methods I don't know why you keep bringing this up. It's like you're running out of things to compare with.
If game developers choose to allow console players to use Keyboard and mouse then great for them. Does not change my stance on if I still think it is cheating or not. And I can comfortably assume that this is also the stance on probably 80% of the console gaming population. It's not enjoyable sneaking up on someone then being turnt around on in 0.1 seconds when it takes you 1 second to perform the same manoeuvre. Thats just one example of numerous different occasions where there is a huge disadvantage for controller users coming up against keyboard and mouse users.
- @SF-Tebaggins So you are saying that Microsoft is providing cheating tools by allowing kb&m on Xbox? Part of the problem?! You should think about what you are saying, it doesn't make sense.
By the way, Sony also allows keyboard and mouse.
The problem that I see is people who are not willing to accept/adapt to changes. Keyboard and mouse on consoles is a reality and it is growing fast!
Again, if you think you have a HUGE disadvantage, by all means plug your keyboard and mouse and be happy. - @Tifanofauvo Hm "adapt to change" would that not be you m&k users that can't 'ADAPT' and use a controller and play fairly like mostly everyone else on console using a controller?
- @TankerFlanker Good point. Yes, that is case for several games including FPS like Battlefield V. I have to use Xbox controller because there is no other option.
However there are better options and if we can, why not use it?
Wouldn't you use a racing wheel in racing game if you have available? Wouldn't it be a better experience?
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