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Wow
Where to start with all that.
If you are on a Controller you still have more AI then you could imagine.
It appears that they can not allow XBox without allowing PC as well because they are on same port or something like that.
It is Obvious that you do not know what you are talking about when you claim that the majority of the cheaters are using PC. Have you even one time searched google for a cheat? They are plentiful, yes for console. The cheaters using PC is old news now Console cheats are the way to go these days.
Controllers never have, nor will they ever, have the matrix to perform PvP game play without AI. I remember when controllers were first allowed into PvP gaming. Every one of you felt just like playing a cheat/Bot, And everyone of you still feel just like playing a cheat/bot today. Because in the PvP realm of gaming it was developed with HUMAN Skill being the factor. Anything other then that is a cheat.
Not one controller player has ever really played any PvP game and enjoyed it without AI because without AI you would not even be able to Frag and lucky to even navigate the map.
Console players parents and you adults that do actually want to gain skill can buy a PC that would run the game as good or even better for the same money these days. Problem is all the console players would not be happy playing without AI.
Controllers RUINED PvP-FPS gaming.
I am actually excited hearing all the whining and crying about the lack of AI. Controller players should not be in any skill based gaming lobby in the first place. Should have kept them in PacMan and Donkey Kong style games and away from Skill Based Gaming entirely
- AJ_Clickz3 months agoSeasoned Hotshot
Okay, thanks for your rant about controllers I suppose.. lol saying Aim Assist is better than M&K for shooters is pure propaganda.
To say there are more cheaters on console than on PC…. That’s.. amusing. COD and even Delta Force specifically created console only crossplay due to the amount of cheaters on PC.
- iLuckyBrad3 months agoNew Ace
CHAOS-DAIMOS wrote:
I remember when controllers were first allowed into PvP gaming. Every one of you felt just like playing a cheat/Bot,
Clearly you don’t remember it.
Controllers started console PvP FPS with GoldenEye 007 (1997) – pure controller 4 player deathmatch, no aim assist, no “AI matrix,” just raw human skill owning friends on the couch.
Then Quake III Arena, Dreamcast (Oct 24, 2000) – Guinness record first online console FPS, played with controllers, zero aim assist, fragging PC players in cross-play.CHAOS-DAIMOS wrote:
It is Obvious that you do not know what you are talking about when you claim that the majority of the cheaters are using PC. Have you even one time searched google for a cheat? They are plentiful, yes for console. The cheaters using PC is old news now Console cheats are the way to go these days.
Obvious we don’t know what we're talking about on cheaters? Lol, have you actually looked at the data instead of Googling ‘console cheats’ and calling it a day? CHAOS-DAIMOS is the classic “controller = aimbot” rant that shows up every time console players complain about crossplay.
PC cheats dwarf console ones by scale. EA's kernel-level Javelin anticheat (PC-only, requiring Secure Boot/TPM 2.0) blocked 2.39M attempts since BF6's Oct 10 launch, while crippling 183/190 cheat vendors (96.3% offline/broken). Wallhacks/ESP/radar/aimbots? Strictly PC-exclusive, kernel-nuked impossible on locked consoles. Console Cronus Zen/XIM? Is Banned in waves across PS5, Xbox and PC via server/input/hardware detection. Majority? PC by a mile. Nearly all confirmed cheaters are on PC and it’s nuking PC sweatlords daily.CHAOS-DAIMOS wrote:
It appears that they can not allow XBox without allowing PC as well because they are on same port or something like that.
This is false.
Ports have nothing to do with crossplay. Xbox, PlayStation, and PC all use many of the same ports, Crossplay is entirely determined by server-side rules and developer choices, not by which port number the traffic flows through.CHAOS-DAIMOS wrote:
Controllers RUINED PvP-FPS gaming.
I am actually excited hearing all the whining and crying about the lack of AI. Controller players should not be in any skill based gaming lobby in the first place. Should have kept them in PacMan and Donkey Kong style games and away from Skill Based Gaming entirelyThey’ve been part of competitive FPS for over 20 years.
Halo, Gears, CoD, Battlefield, Destiny… all massive, skill-based FPS titles built around controllers, with entire esports scenes run on them. If controllers ‘ruined’ anything, publishers, pros, and millions of highly skilled players apparently didn’t get the memo.
Skill isn’t tied to a device. M&K has advantages, controllers have advantages. Every modern FPS balances around both. If you can only win when the lobby is curated to your preferred input, that says more about you than it does about controllers.You mock others for ‘whining’ and claim controllers ruined PvP, but your post is nothing but whining about imaginary AI and gatekeeping who’s allowed to play.