Controversial Topic, but... Female Soldiers.
I'd like to start by saying I hope we can all be adults here while going through this topic. Two ideas can exist simultaneously, and those for me are that I have respect for women who serve or want t...
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You’re projecting as most self-perceived pseudo intellectuals often do and your readiness to brand the (valid) opinions on this topic as some kind of hate speech is disgustingly disingenuous. Moral high ground my **bleep**. Just give us the option to choose gender or toggle to remove male/female voice lines and be done with it.
Mask, you’re seeing a very diluted version of my comment, it has been heavily edited so I can see why you perceive this as me trying to come across as “righteous”. I was responding to someone who said, essentially “we’re only asking about choice” while they were liking some other absolute filth that I was dealing with on another thread (pre-merge) and being disingenuous with their true views. Thankfully that has now been removed by mods and I’ve been able to water the comment down. What happened at Manchester airport is not for us to dissect and apply to gender politics, it was a very real and awful incident where people got hurt. My country is served by brave men and women and I simply won’t stand for gamers using it as some kind of case in point about why women should not be in the game (and also not even mildly insinuating the real police / “men” jobs which women fought hard for to be represented in) as that other person did . No need to whatabout it in gaming world. I think we can both agree on that? TBH dude that’s mostly the problem, a fair bit of feedback is being used as a vehicle to espouse actual discontent with women’s ‘place’ in gaming and society at large.
Anyway, it’s not that deep bro, the truth of the matter is we’re on two sides who are not the majority. There’s a gulf of people in between us who simply don’t care one way or the other, women are in plenty of shooter games and the masses barely flinched.
You’re totally fair to feel the way you do, but I don’t agree with you calling female gamers tourists in the community, as I feel it perpetuates unfortunately very real discrimination out there in the world (see: gamergate), but if that’s how you feel, whatever, don’t play the game or something? Hundreds of thousands even millions will keep plodding away on the battlefield, me included.
As adults, I think we can all live with it if it means someone gets to have a smile and say “hey that’s me!” that could not 10 years ago. It’s a game where everyone should feel welcome and able to suspend their disbeliefs, and no BF is not about “the most realism possible” we ramp C4 jeeps into tanks / helicopters man come on hahahaha. It’s not even a simcade. BF is an arcade game with an emphasis on team play and mechanised warfare.
Yes you’re absolutely valid to choose your gender, I wholly agree, and no asking for that doesn’t make you a bad person. Just don’t use things like realism, older iterations of the game, sensitivity to women’s screams or anything else to try and gatekeep a player base who, in 2025, are absolutely present and relevant. You’ve been fairly sincere with your views and that’s about all we can ask for!
Hopefully we can all get over it and all enjoy the game (and option to choose) on full release.
Maybe see you out there next weekend for some rush bro!
