Does Dice even have it in them?
I've been playing 2042 daily waiting for BF6, and the more I play it, the angrier I'm becoming. I really don't understand how anyone can derive any sort of satisfaction from playing something that ...
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That sounds like exactly what's happening. I always feel like soon as I see someone, I'm already taking damage. I seriously have to be a wizard at positioning to win fights, and pre-fire. If I rely solely on what I see, not going to win a single 1v1.
Dice is aware of this. I'm sure to some extent this is intended, like you're saying, to comp high ping players. My issue with this is not the existence of lag comp or prediction, it's how they're generously tuned towards higher ping players. After a certain point, let's say 60-70ms, those players should start receiving less and less compensation. I know they can tune it that way, and I'm pretty sure other games do already. It's a design choice. I just think this modern, lets make it "fair" for everyone mentality blows. Apex does it, and it's garbage in that game as well.
RaginSam I agree. I think the old server-side movement and hit detection of Battlefield 1942-Bad Company 2 was more skill based.
It rewarded low ping players and punished high ping players.
Yeah we had to lead the target to land shots and movement inputs were delayed. More so for high ping players, but it felt more fair and skill based to me. Everything felt more in sync.
During Battlefield 3. I suggested server-side movement with client-side hit detection. I felt this would keep player movement in sync while eliminating the need for leading targets.
It never caught on because it would make movement feel laggy for high ping players.
So now we have high ping players who can move instantly which allows them to pop out of doors and shoot before even being seen.
Very insightful as always.
I really wish that I could have experienced the older BF games. I wasn't on PC then, and didn't start playing until Bad Company 2. I've heard that with the older Arena shooters you'd have to lead in certain games as well. From some forums I've read, people tend to like how games feel now days, but only when it's working properly. Unfortunately, I've never had the opportunity, so not sure what I'd prefer.
I have identical experience in BTF V as you in BTF 6r. If the servers in the US are filled, i often go there. Having 90 to 94MS ping is MUCH better than having a 8 MS ping. With 8 MS ping, i feel like i am a full second behind gameplay. Seeing the complains of you, makes you wonder if the netcode is identical in btf 6?
I feel like maybe there's some improvement playing against a certain ping range, but against players above a certain range it feels like it's back to 2042 again. It's not as frustrating as in 2042 since you no longer have players who do magical things like wall scan and whatnot, but it still needs work.
