Major Issues Limiting Skill Gap & Player Count Retention in BF6 Farm Kills Game

This is battlefield, not fortnite. Most of the things you are complaining about are what battlefield players want.

We want rich battlefields that look realistic.

We don't want superfast sprinting, and many old timer BF players really don't like the unrealistic sliding already in the game; we do want grounded movement similar to how a soldier wearing 80 lbs of gear would move.

Helicopters and jets are fine for many, I personally don't fly, because the controls are hard and I don't feel like mastering them, but there are many who fly well with them. This seems like a skill issue to me. I'd say helicopters could use a mobility buff though, they are not agile enough, which makes them easy pickings for good rocket launcher users.

I hear footsteps fine, as long as there is not a loud din of battle going on; why do you think footsteps should override the sound of explosions and loud gunfire?

I agree tank/ground vehicle audio could probably use a tweak in some cases; there are times it is fairly quiet around me and a tank somehow quietly sneaks onto the point. Other times, I can hear tanks perfectly fine, even when battle is loud. So this may be more of an audio bug.

I agree headshot multiplier is too low for most guns...SVK doesn't need a headshot multiplier increase though; it already is a near OHK with hollow points (99 damage), this would put it into semi-auto sniper category instead of DMR if it were any stronger.

TTK is fine in the game; we don't want bullet sponges in battlefield. Matter of fact, many of us prefer hardcore mode, where it is even faster (60% health).

You already have Fortnite, other players have CoD. Stop trying to turn battlefield into a game it isn't.

Osc_Binary wrote:

TTK is fine in the game; we don't want bullet sponges in battlefield. Matter of fact, many of us prefer hardcore mode, where it is even faster (60% health).

I think TTK needs to be tweaked just a bit, IMHO.  It just feels lightning quick most of the time for me.  But I'm also aware it could be way more of a netcode thing.

Stupid question, how does one access the hardcore mode?? I've been trying to find it

1. As long as we have massive hitreg problems they cant adjust ttd/ttk.
2. Yes definitly! 
3. I dont fly with a controller so i cant give an opinion about it
4. As you pointed out they are non existenst on enemy, but i clearly hear my teammates walking over the whole map.
5. Ninja tanks in every map sneaking up on me
6. faster sprint is good when you add a duration how long you can sprint. right now every one can sprint as long as he dont get shot down.
7. I also cant see enemys. everything blends together, good old counter strike days. you always knew who is an enemy. 
8. map design is really really bad imo. spawnpoints spawn you almost always in front of an enemy instead of far away in safety. but i think this i a dev choice. 

I can agree with the movement but since you value realistic game play just make sprint a bit faster with a stamina bar so you could balance that out while making it realistic. BR redsec does it well with plates you can react and re set a fight without having to paint faster. I agree the sliding while accurately shooting is very call of duty like and shouldn’t be in the game. But the fast TTK encourages camping and takes skill out of the equation its first own to spot the other wins. Besides like you said you have hardcore mode for people who want the fast TTK.

That’s my point it shouldn’t be hard to fly an aircraft when there has been past bf games made it easier to fly. It’s fine if you don’t want to fly but it should affect others who want to fly. 

Buff headshot where it takes 2 bullets instead of 3 same as a body shot kill, make it more realistic. Cap it at 2 to make snipers preferred. Or unless you use hollow point or synthetic bullets to balance snipers otherwise hollow and synthetic bullets are useless in the game.

BR redsec fixed the footstep audio just do the same in multiplayer. Yea it should be louder it’s a video game at the end of the day the only time you shouldn’t hear footsteps if someone is crouch walking.

im not trying to make BF into fornite i want to improve it for someone who is new like me to be easier to get into. Also I can get out killed by a noob in a corner so no matter how much better I am because of the TTK there’s no skill gap. Some of us younger folk like to play competitively and improve so give that audience that option. But keep the causal modes and hardcore mode for the older audience who prefer to play that styles

 this will help the longevity of bf for a wider audience not just for one. I would want to see Dice suffer from success as this game has a lot of potential.

I like that, giving faster sprint a stamina bar to have it balanced.

Battlefield 4 had pretty much all of these. 

It takes 4-6 rounds in optimal range for all automatic weapons (no headshots); I think that is a good place personally. I do think the netcode/latency gives weird TTK/TTD, but the balance of the weapons is good, in my opinion. I do think they should do what they can to tighten up the experience though.

Hardcore is only in Portal right now, and has its own series of issues people are asking to have fixed; so I don't play HC right now because:

1. Finding a populated server in Portal can be impossible sometimes with all the empty servers filling the list.
2. Hardcore mutator in portal makes some weird things happen, like no sights on vehicle weapons (which is obviously a problem because we can't really ADS vehicle weapons and mounted weapons.

I'm hoping we get official hardcore servers/play lists, but I'm not holding my breath. DICE doesn't seem to be caring about BF players too much. We ask for official servers and server browser, they ignore us. We ask for official hardcore, they ignore us. We ask for larger maps, they mostly ignore us. Lol I like the game for what it is, but think it could be so much better if they listened to the veteran BF players a bit more.

Very good pointers! I am a 50-year old who have played BF since BFBC2 and i agree to everything but the running part.

I have slow reflexes at my age but ive almost stopped ADS because i get killed instantly if i try to aim in a firefight. TTK is too fast.

I am playing on controller and though it took time i actually got pretty good att flying Helicopter i BF3 and BF4. The problem in BF6 is that the choppers feel too light and responsive. Theres no feeling of weight to them. AND the maps are too small in most maps u cant even lift off before being painted and pounded with missiles or another chopper hoovering over your base.

They should absolutely fix the footsteps audio for enemies and the sniper/ninja tank problem.

The visual clutter has almost always been an issue i BF, but with BF6 with all the environmental debris and smoke/dust and often small maps. Even with the indicators turned all the way down its almost impossible to see an enemy with everything on screen. This with the  nr. 8 map issue creates a chaotic, random experience were the tactical elements and squad/teamplay gets thrown out the window. The amount of rooms/corridors/entrances/ is too much. I miss the chokepoints battles from earlier BF games. Metro, anyone? Seine Crossing? 

The game is good, but like u said with these things changed it could be great!

TTK is no different then BF3-4 which everyone holds as the best. Only difference were the head shots did more. Stop trying to make the game a fortnight or Cod. Skill issue guys.

Moment is fine, faster movement will just ruin the game. This is BF game. 

Can't speak on jets and helis never really enjoyed flying in game.

Footsteps do need fixed. 

A Battlefield is a hectic place with dust and debris.  This clearly is just not the game for some of you. 

Those changes won’t make it Fortnite or COD. Lowering TTK will make it where a fight isn’t already pre determined by someone in a corner ADS. If TTK is lowered there’s no need for faster sprint.

They need to remove slide & jump shooting that’s Fortnite and COD.

There isn’t a reward for headshots unless your using a sniper so I don’t understand the “skill issue” make it a skilled game where headshot matter with all guns also make the game realistic in that aspect. 

The debri can be more transparent in the  game it’s a video game where your trying spot the enemy, but this doesn’t ruin the game not as much as the other skill gap issues.