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ShadowCat97
Rising Traveler
3 days ago

Mid-Range Gunfire Collapse & Occlusion Mismatch (50–80m)

Hi DICE / Frostbite Audio Team,

I really like the "found-footage" vibe you're going for in BF6, but there's a major step back in combat readability at 50–80m​ compared to BF3 and BF4. Right now, mid-range fights feel empty and muffled rather than dense and layered.

The Issues:

When spectating or fighting at mid-range, three things stand out:

Density Collapse:​ Squad fights (4v4+) collapse to just 1 or 2 audible rifles. You see muzzle flashes everywhere, but the mix only lets 1–2 sources punch through.

Muffled Impact:​ The guns that do come through sound small and "underwater." They lack the sharp transient and mid-range punch you'd expect at that distance.

Lack of Environmental Identity:​ At 50–80m, gunshots lose their environmental context. They sound like "dry," generic samples with almost no reverb tail, making it impossible to tell if the shooter is indoors or outdoors. In BF3/4, you could identify the space by ear alone; in BF6, a rifle in a courtyard sounds identical to one in a tunnel.

Observations (likely mix/occlusion related):

Looking at the 1.x patchnotes and past GDC talks on Frostbite audio, I suspect these issues are stacking:

Occlusion:​ Bi-directional raycasts feel like they’re borrowing the near-field low-pass curve for mid-range shots. Even light cover (foliage, thin walls) seems to trigger overly aggressive filtering, killing the highs.

HDR / Threat Bus:​ Non-threat rifles at the same distance seem to get crushed by HDR ducking once a couple of voices cross the threshold. Instead of layering, they just sink under the loudest gun.

Reflections:​ Gunshots feel like they’re being processed with the wrong send levels for the distance. Instead of a natural tail that defines the space, we get a "dry" sample that fails to convey whether it's in a wide open plaza or a tight corridor.

The Result:

Because of this stacking, mid-range fights lose their density and sense of place. We get "Empty Clarity" instead of BF3/4's "Controlled Chaos."

Hope for the Future:

Whatever the exact cause, I’d love to see mid-range gunfire treated as its own priority layer—distinct from both the near-field threats and the distant background ambience. You fixed the near-field footsteps in 1.1.3 by giving them more headroom; I’m hoping the mid-field gunfight can get that same attention, restoring the high-end definition behind light cover and bringing back the spatial reverb cues that let us identify the environment by ear.

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    ShadowCat97
    Rising Traveler
    1 day ago

    Audio Addendum: Player-Driven Distant War Atmosphere

    All distant combat audio (explosions, gunfire beyond 80m) is strictly sourced from live player actions—no pre-recorded "phantom war" ambience is ever used to simulate non-existent activity.

    Physical Propagation:​ Distant sounds follow real-world acoustic rules: 120m+ heavy explosions receive physically accurate low-frequency delay (muzzle flash precedes rumble), while 80–120m small-arms fire retains clear directional cues without artificial delay. Attenuation is governed by distance, wind direction, and spatial occlusion—open terrain allows low-frequency blasts to carry farther and clearer than urban environments.

    Ambience Purity:​ Only non-combat environmental audio is retained as baseline ambience: wind, wildlife, urban hum, and distant logistical vehicle drones. Combat atmosphere is generated entirely by player behavior, not system presets.

    Tactical Readability:​ This ensures every match’s soundscape is unique: clusters of chain explosions​ mark intense pushes, sporadic single shots reveal flanking maneuvers, and directional rumble exposes the active frontline without UI clutter. There is no "combat-free vacuum"—any perceived silence in open terrain simply means the active frontline is far away, not that the battlefield is dead.

    Real distant combat audio also follows natural tactical rhythm: sporadic single blasts, intermittent clusters of chain explosions, and periods of silence between engagements—never uniform, looped "phantom thunder". This randomness ensures every match’s soundscape feels alive, not like a pre-recorded background track.

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    ShadowCat97
    Rising Traveler
    3 days ago

    I've posted about various aspects of mid-range acoustics over the last few weeks (Issues #1-#3). is intended to consolidate those findings into one clear report focusing on the 50-80m collapse, muffling, and lack of environmental identity.

    Previous Topic 1:

    https://forums.ea.com/discussions/battlefield-6-technical-issues-en/bf6-audio-feedback-200m-sounds-die-instantly-%E2%80%93-please-bring-back-the-echo/13566846

    Previous Topic 2:

    https://forums.ea.com/discussions/battlefield-6-technical-issues-en/bf6-audio-third-person-guns-too-quiet-hitmarkers-too-loud/13581338

    Previous Topic3:

    Am I crazy, or does BF6 sound... 'flat'? Where did the 'Battlefield Feeling' go? | EA Forums - 13608183

    Previous Topic4:

    https://forums.ea.com/discussions/battlefield-6-technical-issues-en/audio-follow-up-distant-gunfire-positioning/13594688

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