I've read that this is heavily debated, but in an IGN poll I saw that the vast majority of the voters wanted a closed weapon system. According to the IGN poll, which at the time of this post has 2406 voters, 24.8% preferred open, 60.2% preferrred closed, and 15% had no preference. I think it could improve the game for numberous reasons. Stick with what made BF great.
It establishes clear roles. Players immediately know what their class does, which makes teamwork and objective play more effective. It balances gameplay. Limiting weapons per class makes it easier for devs to tune guns and gadgets without breaking the game. It encourages team work. If classes specialize, you rely on your squad for different abilities, which makes matches more strategic and fun. It makes progression more fun. Unlocking and mastering class-specific weapons feels more rewarding when you can’t just pick the best gun for everything. Newer players will be more comfy. Closed classes make it easier to learn one class at a time instead of being overwhelmed by every weapon in the game.
I also think it would be awesome if DICE ran an in-game poll at release to see what the community prefers. Something like:
1) Closed classes (each class has its own weapons/gadgets)
2) Hybrid (core weapons are locked, but limited cross-class options exist)
3) Open classes (all weapons available for all classes)
4) No preference
I know you're trying to listen to the fans, so make their voices heard. I think basing the decisions on gameplay strictly on the Beta is misguided.
Most players are not on the forums, or will ever see a IGN poll. I have not seen or heard of this poll. The players that engage in this discussion is not usually the average player.. and most players that are happy with the open system solution do not feel the need to make their voice heard, as the open weapon system is default in the game, and the developers has already said that this is the route they are taking. 2406 voters is not a lot of data, and is likely very biased. The data from the open beta is much more based and far more trustworthy.
It establishes clear roles. Players immediately know what their class does
No, the class itself does not become more intuitive by closing the weapons. The roles are still similar, however a open weapon system offers more variety, which could be viewed as a positive. I at least think it is.
which makes teamwork and objective play more effective.
It encourages team work. If classes specialize, you rely on your squad for different abilities, which makes matches more strategic and fun. It makes progression more fun.
This is in my opinion false, and for a lot of players it is the complete opposite. By closing the weapons you hinder teamwork.
I will likely play BF6 solo a lot, as I do not have that many friends that plays fps games that much. I would for example want to play support in many scenarios, so that I can focus on team play and feel that I contribute to my squad by resupplying, healing and reviving my team mates if that is needed. However, If you close the weapons I will simply not play support because I am forced to play with a weapon type that I do not like. Then I will instead pick assault class and play for my self whenever I play solo.. and the only way I will be playing as a team is if the squad plays around, and supports me. Let's be honest, that never happens. This just makes the game way less fun.
Closed weapons makes the class system more redundant.. as players will pick class based on weapon instead.
Limiting weapons per class makes it easier for devs to tune guns and gadgets without breaking the game.
No, it is not that hard to balance, and the weapons and classes needs to be balanced regardless of a open or closed weapon system.
Newer players will be more comfy. Closed classes make it easier to learn one class at a time instead of being overwhelmed by every weapon in the game.
No, no one is feeling overwhelmed by their ability to choose their desired weapon. Newer players will be more annoyed that they are forced to play with weapons they do not like, and they will stick to certain classes instead of engaging in an actual good class system that could be interesting for them, but instead you are forcing a weird restriction that should not be there.
A open class system provides more variation in the way we play the game, more variation in builds and more interesting gameplay.
In the end the open weapon system is better for majority of players. If you personally do not like it you can play the game as you want, and there is nothing stopping you from using the signature weapons, even in a open weapon system, but stop forcing that on everyone else. Let me play the game as I want.
I also think it would be awesome if DICE ran an in-game poll at release to see what the community prefers.
That could work, it might be a good idea. It is important, as you say, that it is in-game and available to real players without having to access a forum or poll somewhere else. It should probably be out for a couple of weeks after release, and you should only be asked to vote after you reach a certain level, so you have a better understanding of your preference.
No, the class itself does not become more intuitive by closing the weapons.
It answers a simple question, "What engagement distance am I supposed to engage at?". Snipers intuitively stay further away. Support given that the machine gun often has slower ADS time, or is less accurate when firing on the move, is automatically moved towards a more defensive role. Submachine guns are pushed towards aggressive CQB play at the front lines, as they traditionally have poor range, but have excellent hipfire and shooting on the move statistics. The assault rifle is somewhat ambiguous though, which due to its versatility does not push players towards a playstyle. In my opinion that's more intuitive.
If a class is defined by the engagement distance, then I agree with you. I don't think that it should be though. In my opinion a class is defined by the utility it brings to the team, and you can play with different weapons at different distances and still provide the same underlying role. Having closed weapons does not necessarily make the players immediately know what their class does, and I do not think it is a positive thing that we force players to play a certain way either.
“Let me play the game as I want”
literally how both sides feel.
My opinion is my opinion, but one thing that does matter is that the developers find a way to actually measure player feedback so they can tailor the experience for the majority of players.
The difference is that you can still play with signature weapons, even with a open weapon system. I understand it is not perfect, but at least it is better than a closed weapon system would be for me.
What was the bonus again for Support and Assault?
The type of person who would vote on an IGN poll is the type that I wouldn't trust lol. What respectable gamer follows them anymore?
So 2,400 people voted, which isn't a very good sample size for a game that reportedly sold 1.7 million in preorders on Steam, and is projected to sell 5 million copies during the first week after it's launched.
The beta had both playlist visible, so it's clear what was more popular. This is just a matter of people not being happy with the result and trying to find a way to discredit it.
Open had a few different game modes, was always on the main page.
Closed got fobbed off to the side, and during the second beta the only way to play conquest by itself was to play open or you had to play breakthrough too as they got squished together in the ONLY closed playlist.
